I'm now more sure than ever that Geno's going #1 overall.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20

What is Geno not as good in compared to Garcia or Kolb? I never mentioned Mcnabb.

Why are there copies of the Style section all over the place, d-do you have a dog? A little chow or something?

[ChiefAshhole20]

I don't get it..

[Gravedigger]

Superbowl QB's since 2003:

Tom Brady
Jake Delhomme
Donovan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Hasselbeck
Peyton Manning
Rex Grossman
Eli Manning
Kurt Warner
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
Colin Kaepernick

Superbowl QB's since 2003 that were drafted in the first round:

Rex Grossman
Donovan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
A case could be made for Drew Brees even being the first pick in the second round.

7/13 were first round picks, over half, and if you count Drew Brees you get 8/13. You can say what you want about if you think Geno isn't the guy we should take, but taking one of the best QB's in a draft has worked the majority of the time the last 10 years. Also Tom Brady has played in 4 of those Superbowls where he beat Peyton and Rivers many a times so you could've almost added Rivers to that list of first rounders as well.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Superbowl QB's since 2003:

Tom Brady
Jake Delhomme
Donovan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Hasselbeck
Peyton Manning
Rex Grossman
Eli Manning
Kurt Warner
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
Colin Kaepernick

Superbowl QB's since 2003 that were drafted in the first round:

Rex Grossman
Donovan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
A case could be made for Drew Brees even being the first pick in the second round.

7/13 were first round picks, over half, and if you count Drew Brees you get 8/13. You can say what you want about if you think Geno isn't the guy we should take, but taking one of the best QB's in a draft has worked the majority of the time the last 10 years. Also Tom Brady has played in 4 of those Superbowls where he beat Peyton and Rivers many a times so you could've almost added Rivers to that list of first rounders as well.

More importantly, look at the disparity of the non first round QBs.

Tom Brady- 6th round
Jake Delhomme- undrafted
Matt Hasselbeck- 6th round
Kurt Warner- undrafted
Colin Kaepernick- 2nd round

That shit's all over the place. Yes, you CAN find late round gems, but that doesn't mean you should bank on it as a legitimate strategy for finding the right QB.

The error (that JustPassinBy and Excretor keep missing) is you can't just say, "Look at all these QBs who didn't get drafted in the first round who went to the Super Bowl! That's almost as many as the first round QBs!" They don't look at the percentages or take into account that SIX rounds (seven if you count undrafted guys) of QBs were combined to get a number that is fewer than just the one round.

Just because Brady and Warner happened doesn't mean the Chiefs can do it. If they do, then great. In the meantime, they should start looking for QBs in the first round, which is OVERWHELMINGLY the round to find your starter and franchise guy.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by SNR

More importantly, look at the disparity of the non first round QBs.

Tom Brady- 6th round
Jake Delhomme- undrafted
Matt Hasselbeck- 6th round
Kurt Warner- undrafted
Colin Kaepernick- 2nd round

That shit's all over the place. Yes, you CAN find late round gems, but that doesn't mean you should bank on it as a legitimate strategy for finding the right QB.

The error (that JustPassinBy and Excretor keep missing) is you can't just say, "Look at all these QBs who didn't get drafted in the first round who went to the Super Bowl! That's almost as many as the first round QBs!" They don't look at the percentages or take into account that SIX rounds (seven if you count undrafted guys) of QBs were combined to get a number that is fewer than just the one round.

Just because Brady and Warner happened doesn't mean the Chiefs can do it. If they do, then great. In the meantime, they should start looking for QBs in the first round, which is OVERWHELMINGLY the round to find your starter and franchise guy.

And when you hit it, you hit it BIG. Roethlisberger was in multiple Superbowls, so were both Mannings, Aaron Rodgers will get to another one or two before that is all said and done, every draft pick is a risk but the risk at Quarterback will ALWAYS yield the sweeter reward.

[O.city]

If the new regime thinks G. Smith is that guy, by all means, they should take him. If they don't, they shouldn't.

He's no Luck, sure. I don't think we will have a chance to pick a Luck for a while/if ever. IMO, Geno isn't as good as some on here bill him to be, nor is he as bad as some bill him to be.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by O.city

If the new regime thinks G. Smith is that guy, by all means, they should take him. If they don't, they shouldn't.

He's no Luck, sure. I don't think we will have a chance to pick a Luck for a while/if ever. IMO, Geno isn't as good as some on here bill him to be, nor is he as bad as some bill him to be.

That's it in a nutshell.

[Tombstone RJ]

I'd be if kc took geno #1.

[Nightfyre]

Good Lord. Who crushed Exoter with the three pound stupid bat?

[B14ckmon]

Can I get a reerun count of people who still think the chiefs will take geno?

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Can I get a reerun count of people who still think the chiefs will take geno?

they're selecting LJ unfortunately.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

they're selecting LJ unfortunately.

I've never bought this, even when his name was all the hot shit. Maybe I'm just in denial.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by SNR

That was already addressed. Go back and try again

/facepalm.jpg

You're so ignorant sometimes.

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Even if, by chance, some team does have Geno on their board in the 2nd round, that's not "career backup" territory. He'd need to be in the Ricky Stanzi round (5) or lower for that.

And if this is a strong draft for tackles, that's a great reason to move out of 1 if you can, because you can find tackles later in the draft who aren't all that much of a drop off from the ones projected in the top 10. Although I wouldn't call it a 'strong' tackle class. I'd call it a 'deep' tackle class. It's, much like the draft as a whole, a class that doesn't really have any true blue chippers. Joeckel's a mid-late first in a stronger class. Fisher's probably still ahead of him, but borderline top 10-15. This is not a special tackle group in any sense.

(Which doesn't help our efforts to trade down)

If Stanzi were in this draft, he'd be a first round selection, that's how bad this draft is for QB's, they are all career backup caliber, but a few will likely become starters for a few years at some point, while teams wait on the next crop of QB's. Just like how Blaine Gabbert's situation sits. The guy blows donkey dick, yet he's a starter.

Originally Posted by O.city

So Dorsey is a liar I guess?

Believe it or not, teams, coaches, talent evaluators, etc. can change their minds. They can, you know, setup meetings with players (like Geno) after they announce they've narrowed it down.

Its all a rouse to drive trade pricing and trade requests anyhow.

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20

What is Geno not as good in compared to Garcia or Kolb? I never mentioned Mcnabb.

Truthfully, we won't know until he plays. But you can't sit here and say Geno NOW, is as good as Garcia ever was, or is better than Kolb (now). As for McNabb, you can't bring up Eagles QB's that Reid has coached, and NOT talk about McNabb. That's just dumb.

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Superbowl QB's since 2003:

Tom Brady
Jake Delhomme
Donovan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Hasselbeck
Peyton Manning
Rex Grossman
Eli Manning
Kurt Warner
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
Colin Kaepernick

Superbowl QB's since 2003 that were drafted in the first round:

Rex Grossman
Donovan McNabb
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
A case could be made for Drew Brees even being the first pick in the second round.

7/13 were first round picks, over half, and if you count Drew Brees you get 8/13. You can say what you want about if you think Geno isn't the guy we should take, but taking one of the best QB's in a draft has worked the majority of the time the last 10 years. Also Tom Brady has played in 4 of those Superbowls where he beat Peyton and Rivers many a times so you could've almost added Rivers to that list of first rounders as well.

You don't get to count Brees, and 7 out of 13 is 1 away from LESS than half.

So while you might to try qualify your argument's verbage to make it sound like that is a lot, in a statistical sense, its almost as likely that you'll win a super bowl with a QB not picked in the first round.

Originally Posted by O.city

If the new regime thinks G. Smith is that guy, by all means, they should take him. If they don't, they shouldn't.

He's no Luck, sure. I don't think we will have a chance to pick a Luck for a while/if ever. IMO, Geno isn't as good as some on here bill him to be, nor is he as bad as some bill him to be.

I stand 110% behind what the new Regime does, but I KNOW the knew Regime will NOT be picking Geno Smith.

It simply will not happen, period, end of story.

So I'm trying to help these idiots along who think that Geno will be our pick at the 1.1 understand the impossibility of Geno being selected.

Originally Posted by MeatRock

Read again.

Why?

Originally Posted by MeatRock

Reread your own ****ing post dickbag.

Why?

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Good Lord. Who crushed Exoter with the three pound stupid bat?

Nobody, you kidding me?

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Can I get a reerun count of people who still think the chiefs will take geno?

Well in the hundreds on this forum.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

If Stanzi were in this draft, he'd be a first round selection, that's how bad this draft is for QB's, they are all career backup caliber, but a few will likely become starters for a few years at some point, while teams wait on the next crop of QB's. Just like how Blaine Gabbert's situation sits. The guy blows donkey dick, yet he's a starter.

[RealSNR]

"You're the ignorant one" he says