Looks like Spagnuolo [favorite for] DC

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by jaa1025

1) I'd rather have Spags over Sutton
2) I'd rather have Spags over an In House hire due to me wanting to completely clean house on defense.
3) Spags is probably my least favorite candidate out there of the names people have discussed.

His DC coaching history in terms of DVOA (Much better than total defense or points againt IMO) he wasn't as bad IMO, if you take some things into consideration.

Defensive DVOA

Giants
2006 13th DVOA 15th pass, 11th rush (Pre Spags)
2007 13th DVOA 14th Pass, 9th Rush (SB Dominance)
2008 8th DVOA 10th Pass, 12th Rush

Rams (HC) Took over a bad team, remained bad but did improve on defense.
2009 31st DVOA 29th Pass, 31st Rush 1-15 record
2010 19th DVOA, 19th Pass, 20th Rush 7-9 record
2011 21st DVOA, 14th Pass, 27th Rush 2-14 record (Horrid offense)

Saints bad defense when he took over, Bounty Gate Greg Williams fired/Payton Suspended
2011 28th DVOA, 26th Pass, 21st Rush (Pre Spags)
2012 32nd DVOA, 28th Pass, 30th Rush (Bounty Gate Scandal)

NYG
2014 24th DVOA, 21st Pass, 27th Rush (Pre-Spags)
2015 30th DVOA, 28th Pass, 21st Rush
2016 2nd DVOA, 4th Pass, 2nd Rush
2017 24th DVOA, 19th Pass, 26th Rush (tons of team turmoil under McAdoo)

I feel a little better breaking it down but still not high at all. If he can assemble a good staff and they give him some bodies on defense, I think it could work.

Anything is better than Sutton. However, these stats do not excite me and do not give me that much hope if Spags is the DC.
However, we know that he is Andy's buddy and for that reason alone makes me think that Andy wants him.
Remember Sutton was Andy's pal too.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Anything is better than Sutton. However, these stats do not excite me and do not give me that much hope if Spags is the DC.
However, we know that he is Andy's buddy and for that reason alone makes me think that Andy wants him.
Remember Sutton was Andy's pal too.

I don't think Sutton was Andy's pal. From what I remember, it was a strong rec from his pal Gruden. And I can't blame him for the hire. Sutton was a decent hire, they just kept him a few years too long. The overall Ryan scheme hasn't adapted well to the new modern offense but at the time it was a good scheme to use. And to Suttons credit, we did adapt the defense in many ways. We drafted guys like Jones and Ford to add speed to the line and off the edges.