Music Post your top 5 rock bands of all time - Page 16

TEX · 11-29-2012, 04:53 PM

Led Zeppelin
Rush
Stones
Pink Floyd
Aerosmith

htismaqe · 11-29-2012, 05:05 PM

The Rockman/Boston/Def Leppard discussion is interesting because I'm facing this conundrum right now.

I have a nice tube amp and it sounds screaming great - turned all the way up to 11. On 1/4 volume, it doesn't sound AT ALL like I need it to sound.

I'm working on my album in my bedroom, on a home PC, and I really have no choice - I HAVE to use an amp simulator to get anywhere close to the sound I want because other people live here and I have to be mindful of their ****ing ears.

rabblerouser · 11-29-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The Rockman/Boston/Def Leppard discussion is interesting because I'm facing this conundrum right now.

I have a nice tube amp and it sounds screaming great - turned all the way up to 11. On 1/4 volume, it doesn't sound AT ALL like I need it to sound.

I'm working on my album in my bedroom, on a home PC, and I really have no choice - I HAVE to use an amp simulator to get anywhere close to the sound I want because other people live here and I have to be mindful of their ****ing ears.

Maybe a small tube amp, or a plug-in like AmpFarm would work.

A Line 6 pod woukd probably be the cheapest route, but...they only sound like 90% of the way there.

Orange makes an awesome little amp called the Tiny Terror, i think it has like a 5/15w switch. Flip it to 5, stick it in the closet with a mic, put on your headphones and wail away! (

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htismaqe · 11-29-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

Orange makes an awesome little amp called the Tiny Terror, i think it has like a 5/15w switch. Flip it to 5, stick it in the closet with a mic, put on your headphones and wail away! (

I've been looking at one but I just bought a bass and 15W bass amp, plus some recording equipment so I'm kinda tapped for that sort of thing right now.

I've been playing around with some VST simulators from LePou plugins and they're actually kind of cool...

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-29-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The Rockman/Boston/Def Leppard discussion is interesting because I'm facing this conundrum right now.

I have a nice tube amp and it sounds screaming great - turned all the way up to 11. On 1/4 volume, it doesn't sound AT ALL like I need it to sound.

I'm working on my album in my bedroom, on a home PC, and I really have no choice - I HAVE to use an amp simulator to get anywhere close to the sound I want because other people live here and I have to be mindful of their ****ing ears.

Check out Guitar Rig 5. It has a ton of emulators, cabinets and mics to choose from. It should be more than adequate.

htismaqe · 11-29-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Check out Guitar Rig 5. It has a ton of emulators, cabinets and mics to choose from. It should be more than adequate.

I've looked at it. Unfortunately, I could buy a Micro Terror for that kind of coin.

I've got to go a cheaper route right now but thanks for the suggestion all the same.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-29-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I've looked at it. Unfortunately, I could buy a Micro Terror for that kind of coin.

I've got to go a cheaper route right now but thanks for the suggestion all the same.

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/...-rig-5-player/

Free player

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PodHD/

I'd go for a POD HD. You can record both guitar and bass plus it comes with a USB editor, which is amazingly helpful.

No offense to DW but I think the Orange Tiny Terror is garbage. I'd purchase a high quality active direct box, like a Radial JV48, record all your guitars and basses directly into your Daw, then insert the POD Pro on the group busses in your DAW.

That way, you can edit the guitar and bass tones during mixing, instead of being locked into something that doesn't work. Good luck!

htismaqe · 11-29-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/...-rig-5-player/

Free player

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PodHD/

I'd go for a POD HD. You can record both guitar and bass plus it comes with a USB editor, which is amazingly helpful.

No offense to DW but I think the Orange Tiny Terror is garbage. I'd purchase a high quality active direct box, like a Radial JV48, record all your guitars and basses directly into your Daw, then insert the POD Pro on the group busses in your DAW.

That way, you can edit the guitar and bass tones during mixing, instead of being locked into something that doesn't work. Good luck!

I'll have to check that out. Thanks!

rabblerouser · 11-29-2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/...-rig-5-player/

Free player

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PodHD/

I'd go for a POD HD. You can record both guitar and bass plus it comes with a USB editor, which is amazingly helpful.

No offense to DW but I think the Orange Tiny Terror is garbage. I'd purchase a high quality active direct box, like a Radial JV48, record all your guitars and basses directly into your Daw, then insert the POD Pro on the group busses in your DAW.

That way, you can edit the guitar and bass tones during mixing, instead of being locked into something that doesn't work. Good luck!

no offense taken; I know jackshit about little amps.

This is the first time I've had any lengthy experience with any, and we've been using like 5-watt Matchless, Badkat, Egnator, and Fuchs heads that they have at the studio. The Egnator or whatever sounds like poo to me...

Edit : I like the sound of big Oranges though, and he wanted 'small quiet and cheap so that was my suggestion, based on his criteria, not any experience I've ever had with a TT.

Double Edit : with the budget it sounds like you're working with, I'll second the POD suggestion. Plethora of workable tones in all kinds of configurations you can set yourself at a decent price.

InChiefsHeaven · 11-29-2012, 05:14 PM

Really hard to nail it down to only 5. And I can't include my own band...heh.

Alice Cooper
Iron Maiden
Metallica
Queen
Creedence

But it's not by far a complete list...

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-29-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DrivingWheel

We're making a record right now, and I have 3 or 4 bass signals at a time and one of them is a direct through a preamp in case we wind up using a plug-in during the mixing stage...I'm just trying NOT to.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And personally, I hate that approach.

Get a great bass tone from the amp, cabinet, microphone, instrument, strings, pick/fingers and record.

Make a decision and go with it. Having options doesn't make the music any better and it generally tends to **** things up come mixing time.

For the record, I wasn't dissing you for taking this approach, I just don't like it. I have many producer friends that will do the same thing and take a D.I. with every mic'd bass track and I've told them to nut up, make a decision and roll with it. Some have followed my advice and some have respectfully declined.

But if you have a bass tone, it shouldn't be difficult to capture with one microphone. If you don't know what you're going for or the producer is unsure, that's a whole 'nother can of worms.

rabblerouser · 11-29-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

For the record, I wasn't dissing you for taking this approach, I just don't like it. I have many producer friends that will do the same thing and take a D.I. with every mic'd bass track and I've told them to nut up, make a decision and roll with it. Some have followed my advice and some have respectfully declined.

But if you have a bass tone, it shouldn't be difficult to capture with one microphone. If you don't know what you're going for or the producer is unsure, that's a whole 'nother can of worms.

Like I said, literally just doing to appease everyone else; when it comes time to mix, I'm using my mic'ed cabs. Maybe in stereo, maybe just the one. But it sounds great, the dailys with the mic'ed bas sounds great, so...I've already made up my mind.

Al Bundy · 11-29-2012, 06:35 PM

Metallica
Tool
Stabbing Westward
Def Leppard
Motley Crue

These are in no particular order.

patteeu · 11-29-2012, 09:52 PM

Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
Flogging Molly
Jesus & Mary Chain
Offspring
Dandy Warhols

oldman · 11-30-2012, 07:21 AM

I'm only going to list the ones I've seen live because there are a lot of folks that make great music in the studio, but can't perform on stage. In no particular order:
The Who
The Rolling Stones
The Doobie Brothers
Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band
Bruce Springsteen and the E Street band
Alternate: Fleetwood Mac

As a side note, I did see the Beatles (who knows, couldn't hear a thing over the screams), The Doors (Morrison was so stoned you couldn't understand him), and a host of others that were really solo acts (Joplin, Hendrix).

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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	The Rockman/Boston/Def Leppard discussion is interesting because I'm facing this conundrum right now. I have a nice tube amp and it sounds screaming great - turned all the way up to 11. On 1/4 volume, it doesn't sound AT ALL like I need it to sound. I'm working on my album in my bedroom, on a home PC, and I really have no choice - I HAVE to use an amp simulator to get anywhere close to the sound I want because other people live here and I have to be mindful of their ****ing ears.
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oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	I'm only going to list the ones I've seen live because there are a lot of folks that make great music in the studio, but can't perform on stage. In no particular order: The Who The Rolling Stones The Doobie Brothers Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band Bruce Springsteen and the E Street band Alternate: Fleetwood Mac As a side note, I did see the Beatles (who knows, couldn't hear a thing over the screams), The Doors (Morrison was so stoned you couldn't understand him), and a host of others that were really solo acts (Joplin, Hendrix).
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