John Carter (of Mars) trailer

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Hawk

I guess I don't really understand how it could have cost $250 million to make.

I wondered that as well?? It didnt look anymore expensive than your typical summer CGI blockbuster.

Its not a bad film, it certainly doesnt deserve all the negativity its gotten, but i guess thats what happens when something expensive flops.

[JD10367]

It is what it is: a fairly entertaining cheesy sword-and-loincloth film that happens to be the original of the genre. It's already made $180M worldwide in 3 weeks; it's not the film's fault it cost so much to make.

[DaneMcCloud]

Watching it now. I've heard that it's bad and know it lost upwards of $200 million. It's one of the main reasons that Disney bought Lucasfilm.

Also, I have a new personal interest. Something about the trailer they showing on Starz.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Watching it now. I've heard that it's bad and know it lost upwards of $200 million. It's one of the main reasons that Disney bought Lucasfilm.

Also, I have a new personal interest. Something about the trailer they showing on Starz.

Its not outstanding, but neither is it as bad as the media would have you believe.

[Silock]

You made this post 9 minutes ago.

I can only assume you've turned it off by now.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Silock

You made this post 9 minutes ago.

I can only assume you've turned it off by now.

It's still on because I had to pause for a beer and a shot of whiskey.

[Bump]

Tim Riggins should retire

[htismaqe]

It wasn't a bad movie. It wasn't great, either.

But it served one purpose - it exposed another generation of young readers to ERB.

My daughter saw this movie with me after I begged her. "I read all the books when I was your age! It's a Disney movie, too!"

Immediately after seeing the film, she started downloading books to her Kindle. She's read 5 or 6 of them in total now and wants to read more.

[DaneMcCloud]

I fell asleep shortly after I turned it back on. It wasn't bad but I've got a bit of a cold and I'm worn down from sleep training a 3 month old.

I'll watch it again, for sure. The scenes with Bryan Cranston were somewhat amusing and it's too bad there weren't more.

[mr. tegu]

It was a decent movie for what it is. I was just expecting some entertainment and that's what it provided. Nothing more but also nothing less.

[DaneMcCloud]

So, I finally got through the entire movie last night. What a freaking mess.

First off, there are like FIVE antagonists in the film:

1. The people who murdered John Carter's family
2. The Union Calvery
3. The Tharks
4. The Thern
5. The Zogdangan

It's just TOO much to follow in such a short period of time. The Thern were especially ridiculous. Immortals who help species to destroy their own worlds as sport? Matai Shang specifically states they don't actually get involved, yet in later scenes, he's extremely involved, directing and guiding Sab Than.

The film would have played much better if Carter was a Union soldier in Arizona that stumbled upon the gold mine and medallion. No unnecessary backstory about his family's murder or being a Confederate, etc. The Thern were absolutely unnecessary, as was the subplot between Tars Tarkas and Tal Hajus, where it was really unnecessary to see the latter beheaded.

Visually, the film was amazing. The Tharks looked extremely real as did the airships (loved the retro design). But the subplots only made the story more convoluted and when the final scene requires a voice-over, you know you're watching a bad movie with problems. It's really a shame because there's a good movie in there somewhere, had the right people produced and edited it.

And finally, Michael Giacchino's score completely underwhelming. So many cues sounded like LOST cues re-purposed. There was no central theme, no theme for Carter or the Tharks or the citizens of Helium (another poor choice - helium? Come on). It was just music for music's sake and didn't enhance the scenes.

I have to give this film 1.5 stars out of 5 and that's only because of Taylor Kitsch and the CGI team.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So, I finally got through the entire movie last night. What a freaking mess.

First off, there are like FIVE antagonists in the film:

1. The people who murdered John Carter's family
2. The Union Calvery
3. The Tharks
4. The Thern
5. The Zogdangan

It's just TOO much to follow in such a short period of time. The Thern were especially ridiculous. Immortals who help species to destroy their own worlds as sport? Matai Shang specifically states they don't actually get involved, yet in later scenes, he's extremely involved, directing and guiding Sab Than.

The film would have played much better if Carter was a Union soldier in Arizona that stumbled upon the gold mine and medallion. No unnecessary backstory about his family's murder or being a Confederate, etc. The Thern were absolutely unnecessary, as was the subplot between Tars Tarkas and Tal Hajus, where it was really unnecessary to see the latter beheaded.

Visually, the film was amazing. The Tharks looked extremely real as did the airships (loved the retro design). But the subplots only made the story more convoluted and when the final scene requires a voice-over, you know you're watching a bad movie with problems. It's really a shame because there's a good movie in there somewhere, had the right people produced and edited it.

And finally, Michael Giacchino's score completely underwhelming. So many cues sounded like LOST cues re-purposed. There was no central theme, no theme for Carter or the Tharks or the citizens of Helium (another poor choice - helium? Come on). It was just music for music's sake and didn't enhance the scenes.

I have to give this film 1.5 stars out of 5 and that's only because of Taylor Kitsch and the CGI team.

The big problem wasn't that those people and plots were unnecessary, it's that there wasn't enough time to develop them. So in the end, they seemed superfluous.

The Lord of the Rings trilogy was the epitome of this.

This 3-hour movie actually took place over the course of 3 books. They shouldn't have tried to cram it all into one motion picture.

[BWillie]

So I was supposed to know who John Carter was before this movie?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

So I was supposed to know who John Carter was before this movie?

[DMAC]

Me, my 8 year old, and my 6 year old all got bored in the first 30 minutes and found ourselves with Legos.