Chiefs Chiefs' Player Jevon Belcher involved in murder-suicide, shoots self at Arrowhead - Page 96

MoreLemonPledge · 10:32 AM

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-team-facility

DJ's left nut · 12-01-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

I think everyone needs to calm the **** down and stop arguing. On both sides of this argument. People died. This is a tragedy, stop with all your selfishness.

It's a chat board. If you don't like 'discussion' on a 'discussion' forum, you're welcome to say your piece and walk.

Some of us deal with things differently.

To each their own. You're not the arbiter of what constitutes an 'acceptable' response to tragedy.

Iconic · 12-01-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

We'll never know why.

He shot himself. He's dead.

Hitler killed himself before we could take him in. Does that mean atrocities such as the Holocaust don't matter either because we will 'never know why'?

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Originally Posted by Dave

Then that drunk dumbass just got himself killed. Not murder.

So it's not murder as long as the guy you shoot is drunk. Got it detective Dave.

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So there are acceptable reasons to kill her?

You are ****ing deplorable. Are you related to Denise?

No, I don't think anything can justify one man killing another.

KCUnited · 12-01-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by feldspar

Of course you play the game.

You consider if Crennel is up to it right away, but you don't even know how he feels about the game being played. Could be that he wants to stay busy, ever consider that? I'm sure he has the option of sitting this one out if he wants, or so I would assume. Torrey Smith played for the Ravens the very day his 19-year-old brother was killed in a motorcycle accident this year...and his bother didn't kill somebody in front of his own mother before he died.

You think all the players really want to give up their game-day paychecks? Those are pretty sizable. We are talking about an incredibly selfish series of actions by Belcher. He's a murderer, then he's got to go to the team's facility to shoot himself in front of the coach and GM?

As far as I'm concerned, the tragedy is the murder. I feel sorry for the child left behind, the murdered woman, the families involved, and, to a lesser degree, Pioli and Crennel for having to witness a suicide. I have a friend that witnessed his buddy shoot himself in the head...it was just the two of them, until it wasn't, if you catch my drift. That was not the end of his world.

KC mayor Sly James gave an interview after he spoke with members of the Chiefs staff and stated that the Chiefs did indeed wish to play the game as scheduled.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-01-2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Hitler killed himself before we could take him in. Does that mean atrocities such as the Holocaust don't matter either because we will 'never know why'?

So it's not murder as long as the guy you shoot is drunk. Got it detective Dave.

No, I don't think anything can justify one man killing another.

What a ****ing moron.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-01-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Just Horrible. RIP 59 and his wife

I feel very sad for Ms. Perkins and her child but **** Belcher with rusty chainsaw and piss on his grave.

What a ****ing coward.

feldspar · 12-01-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

WE MUST KNOW THESE ANSWERS!!!!!

Could be he killed himself just because he didn't want to go to jail for murder. He killed his girlfriend and basically ruined his career, nevermind his life and the probably the lives of others.

The real question is why he killed his girlfriend. I highly doubt that she "had it coming." I understand all the shock and disbelief, but not really the sympathy for a murderer who then took the easy way out.

splatbass · 12-01-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's a chat board. If you don't like 'discussion' on a 'discussion' forum, you're welcome to say your piece and walk.

Some of us deal with things differently.

To each their own. You're not the arbiter of what constitutes an 'acceptable' response to tragedy.

I have the right to state my opinion too, and my opinion is all you guys arguing over this are self-centered and don't give a shit about the victims. The way you guys are fighting over this is SHAMEFUL. Good day.

**DeezNutz** · 12-01-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't think there's been enough evidence released to rule out pre-meditated murder.

I'm not stating that it was pre-meditated but it wouldn't be a shock to find out that was the case.

I agree with all of this. I've been stating what I view as most likely, and this could all be wrong because you're right; we don't have enough information currently.

htismaqe · 12-01-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Hitler killed himself before we could take him in. Does that mean atrocities such as the Holocaust don't matter either because we will 'never know why'?

A whole group - THOUSANDS of people - committed those atrocities. Hell, an ENTIRE NATION tried to systematically wipe an entire ETHNICITY off the face of the Earth.

It's not even REMOTELY a similar situation.

You're a ****ing tool.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-01-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

I have the right to state my opinion too, and my opinion is all you guys arguing over this are self-centered and don't give a shit about the victims. The way you guys are fighting over this is SHAMEFUL. Good day.

rabblerouser · 12-01-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Sorry but this is the biggest horseshit ****ing line of BS I've ever seen.

He's DEAD.

She's DEAD.

There's no reason AT ALL to figure out why he did what he did and try to "understand" it.

Because in the end, he's gone and can't kill anybody else. The ONLY reason to do what you're suggesting is so that we can posthumously paint him as a victim, as this society always wants to do.

deductive reasoning + logic = undeniable truth

htismaqe · 12-01-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

I have the right to state my opinion too, and my opinion is all you guys arguing over this are self-centered and don't give a shit about the victims. The way you guys are fighting over this is SHAMEFUL. Good day.

It's called a catharsis. How else do we deal with something like this?

We're all fans of a team whose MLB just killed someone and then killed himself.

vailpass · 12-01-2012, 05:19 PM

Just heard about this. Its unreal. My sincere sympathies to Chiefs nation and my prayers for that poor baby girl.

DJ's left nut · 12-01-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

A whole group - THOUSANDS of people - committed those atrocities. Hell, an ENTIRE NATION tried to systematically wipe an entire ETHNICITY off the face of the Earth.

It's not even REMOTELY a similar situation.

You're a ****ing tool.

Don't try reason on this one.

We are firmly in "Godwin's Law" territory on this point.

The guy's just an idiot.

Iconic · 12-01-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

My point remains - murder has a definition and you're not using it.

At best, what you're describing is going to get you dinged with an involuntary manslaughter charge due to the lack of the necessary mens rea.

Murder is black and white.

Please stop being an idiot.

Note:A and C are both cops.

Person A is a bad shooter. Person A attempts to shoot Person B but misses and shoots Person C instead. What would Person A be convicted for?

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MoreLemonPledge M-I-Z S-E-C Join Date: Apr 2009 Casino cash: $10004927	Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide No details yet. Just came across on the news. edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm. An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning. Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25. "We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation." There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said. The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday. The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-team-facility Last edited by MoreLemonPledge; 12-01-2012 at 10:32 AM..
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