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Sandy Vagina · 10-30-2014, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tecumseh

The Sanders debacle set us back a bit. But nice to know the FO will go after quality FA's that fill a need. Better than hit or missing thru the draft.

Yes. Watching Sanders making excellent plays for Denver REALLY boils my blood. That mother****er...

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-30-2014, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'd say Jenkins is as good as gone but we'll likely see an extreme mix up in our WR corps next season.

We may have to keep a couple of these scrubs just for continuity's sake.

I think DAT and Bowe will be the only survivors next season, with Hammond & Albert Wilson back on the PS, unless they completely blow up later in the season.

IMO, DAT should be the starting slot receiver and Hemingway and/or Jenkins should only see the field due to injury.

ThaVirus · 10-30-2014, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think DAT and Bowe will be the only survivors next season, with Hammond & Albert Wilson back on the PS, unless they completely blow up later in the season.

IMO, DAT should be the starting slot receiver and Hemingway and/or Jenkins should only see the field due to injury.

DAT is a RB, technically.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-30-2014, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

DAT is a RB, technically.

He's a receiver. The coach at Oregon last season completely misused him.

jspchief · 10-30-2014, 05:09 PM

This run defense doesn't pass the eye test for me. A number of teams have run the ball well against the Chiefs this year, they just haven't run often. I'm not sure how much of a liability it will ultimately be, but I don't think its an area to be content with.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-30-2014, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

This run defense doesn't pass the eye test for me. A number of teams have run the ball well against the Chiefs this year, they just haven't run often. I'm not sure how much of a liability it will ultimately be, but I don't think its an area to be content with.

This a Pass First league now and the Chiefs currently have the #1 pass defense in the league.

While they didn't exactly "bottle up" Frank Gore on the road (107 yards), their run defense has certainly been sufficient to date. They have a few tougher tests ahead with Marshawn Lynch and possibly Hillman/Ball when they meet Denver but if the pass defense continues to play well, I wouldn't be too concerned about a few rushing yards.

**TimeForWasp** · 10-30-2014, 10:30 PM

The Chiefs are very balanced, The offence helps by holding time of possession. Special teams helps by good returns and excellent punts pinning them behind 10 yards. and the offense helps the defense by long drives and keeping the opposing QB off the field.

jonzie04 · 10-30-2014, 11:02 PM

I liked seeing dat split out wide vs the rams. I really wish they'd let bowe go, and would sign 2-3 quality guys.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-30-2014, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04

I liked seeing dat split out wide vs the rams.

Absolutely

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Originally Posted by jonzie04

I really wish they'd let bowe go, and would sign 2-3 quality guys.

I'll be really surprised if that happens. The Chiefs need to draft at least two WR's in the 2015 draft and even if they're able to sign one quality guy, like a Maclin or Randall Cobb or whomever, they'll still need Bowe's presence for one more season, IMO.

Now, if they're able to lure a superstar like a Dez Bryant or DeMaryius Thomas, that may change. But it's hard to imagine either of those guys leaving their respective teams.

jonzie04 · 10-30-2014, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Absolutely

I'll be really surprised if that happens. The Chiefs need to draft at least two WR's in the 2015 draft and even if they're able to sign one quality guy, like a Maclin or Randall Cobb or whomever, they'll still need Bowe's presence for one more season, IMO.

Now, if they're able to lure a superstar like a Dez Bryant or DeMaryius Thomas, that may change. But it's hard to imagine either of those guys leaving their respective teams.

I guess it could work keeping bowe for 1 more season with a 1 fa signing, though idk what the 16' FA class looks like. There are a ton of good wrs this year that may come out. I'd bet we could sign maclin, Welker, and anquan Boldin for pretty damn close to what bowe makes right now. And we could still draft some wr's to groom. And I have to think wed be much better off than bowe, maclin, and some draft picks.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-30-2014, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04

I'd bet we could sign maclin, Welker, and anquan Boldin for pretty damn close to what bowe makes right now.

Dude, come on.

Welker's a concussion away from retirement. Maclin is a possibility but there's no guarantee he'll leave Philly and he's not a #1. And Boldin is under contract next year.

jonzie04 · 10-30-2014, 11:45 PM

[QUOTE=DaneMcCloud;11072760]Dude, come on.

Welker's a concussion away from retirement. Maclin is a possibility but there's no guarantee he'll leave Philly and he's not a #1. And Boldin is under contract next year.[/QUOT

It was a purely hypothetical situation to show what could be had for the price of bowe, if you dont like the wr's specifically , that's fine..
But there are a lot of good guys coming out pick you're poison. AT LEAST 2 and 3 guys in most cases can be signed for the price of bowe. outside of dez, and demaryius.

Cobb, Torrey smith, Crabtree, maclin, kearse, britt...eddie royal, Kenny Britt etc...

Having a true number 1 in this offense isn't that important, because the ball gets spread around so much.

Having a competent wr corps, who all catch the ball, and are capable of making plays is a lot more important.

penbrook · 10-30-2014, 11:17 PM

Chiefs are the only team in the NFL who hasn't allowed a rushing TD

Direckshun · 10-30-2014, 11:24 PM

Pretty crazy to think how blue-balled we were last offseason at the WR position. Not only does Emmanuel Sanders **** us up the ass, but Brandin Cooks went a pick or two before our selection.

There are going to be 3 or 4 high-impact WRs in this draft. The Chiefs NEED to pick the one they want, and go get him -- if that means trading up, they've almost certainly got the ammunition to do so.

jonzie04 · 10-30-2014, 11:27 PM

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Pretty crazy to think how blue-balled we were last offseason at the WR position. Not only does Emmanuel Sanders **** us up the ass, but Brandin Cooks went a pick or two before our selection.

There are going to be 3 or 4 high-impact WRs in this draft. The Chiefs NEED to pick the one they want, and go get him -- if that means trading up, they've almost certainly got the ammunition to do so.

I saw a mock that had us trading up to 10 and taking Amari cooper. I think it was a chiefs website though lol

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jonzie04 MVP Join Date: Feb 2014 Casino cash: $5796817	[QUOTE=DaneMcCloud;11072760]Dude, come on. Welker's a concussion away from retirement. Maclin is a possibility but there's no guarantee he'll leave Philly and he's not a #1. And Boldin is under contract next year.[/QUOT It was a purely hypothetical situation to show what could be had for the price of bowe, if you dont like the wr's specifically , that's fine.. But there are a lot of good guys coming out pick you're poison. AT LEAST 2 and 3 guys in most cases can be signed for the price of bowe. outside of dez, and demaryius. Cobb, Torrey smith, Crabtree, maclin, kearse, britt...eddie royal, Kenny Britt etc... Having a true number 1 in this offense isn't that important, because the ball gets spread around so much. Having a competent wr corps, who all catch the ball, and are capable of making plays is a lot more important.
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4263447	Pretty crazy to think how blue-balled we were last offseason at the WR position. Not only does Emmanuel Sanders **** us up the ass, but Brandin Cooks went a pick or two before our selection. There are going to be 3 or 4 high-impact WRs in this draft. The Chiefs NEED to pick the one they want, and go get him -- if that means trading up, they've almost certainly got the ammunition to do so.
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