Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 200

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

Naptown Chief · 12-12-2018, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Why do you say that?

2.9 million posts in this thread alone bitching and questioning everything about the guy. You don't deserve to enjoy his comeback. You're a Doo Doo face.

Naptown Chief · 12-12-2018, 06:27 PM

And I fart in your general direction.

GloryDayz · 12-12-2018, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dwwataz

2.9 million posts in this thread alone bitching and questioning everything about the guy. You don't deserve to enjoy his comeback. You're a Doo Doo face.

I was just doing the Lord's work to get him to step up and play. I get that people don't often want to take on City Hall, but this is CP, we fly banners if we have to. We're fortunate that my motivating him was all that was needed (we hope) to get him to play football, but it's not like there was another choice.

Feel free to enjoy what I've helped to provide...

carcosa · 12-12-2018, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Why do you say that?

I hope Berry goes Ron Artest on your ass.

In58men · 12-12-2018, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I was just doing the Lord's work to get him to step up and play. I get that people don't often want to take on City Hall, but this is CP, we fly banners if we have to. We're fortunate that my motivating him was all that was needed (we hope) to get him to play football, but it's not like there was another choice.

Feel free to enjoy what I've helped to provide...

Shut up Doo Doo face!!!!!!

Naptown Chief · 12-12-2018, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men

Shut up Doo Doo face!!!!!!

WHAT HE SAID.

Spoiler!

**TribalElder** · 12-12-2018, 06:43 PM

doo doo face

shit is getting real up in here

GloryDayz · 12-12-2018, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dwwataz

And I fart in your general direction.

BTW, I love me some Annapolis, you have one fine city there friend... McGarvey's is some lots of fun, one of my favorites.

GloryDayz · 12-12-2018, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

I hope Berry goes Ron Artest on your ass.

That would be funny... But he won't.

GloryDayz · 12-12-2018, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men

Shut up Doo Doo face!!!!!!

I'm not feeling the love...

suzzer99 · 12-12-2018, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Are you contractually obligated to go?

I RSVPed yes. It's at Fogo de Chao so they need a headcount. I will be sneaking out to the bar for the TV constantly.

Also it's not actually my current coworkers - it's my previous coworkers and we're like family.

Naptown Chief · 12-12-2018, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

BTW, I love me some Annapolis, you have one fine city there friend... McGarvey's is some lots of fun, one of my favorites.

It's weird calling it downtown because it's like 3 city blocks, but downtown Annapolis is awesome. I take my pitbull there sometimes to pickup women and occasionally I'll DD for a few friends and go there. When I was younger I preferred going to Baltimore or DC but have since come to appreciate the area more. So much to do boating and fishing wise. Just a beautiful area in general.

I moved here when I was 17 from San Diego so it took some getting used to. After a few years it started to grow on me. Having family out here solidifies it but I doubt I'd move back anyway..

GloryDayz · 12-12-2018, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwwataz

It's weird calling it downtown because it's like 3 city blocks, but downtown Annapolis is awesome. I take my pitbull there sometimes to pickup women and occasionally I'll DD for a few friends and go there. When I was younger I preferred going to Baltimore or DC but have since come to appreciate the area more. So much to do boating and fishing wise. Just a beautiful area in general.

I moved here when I was 17 from San Diego so it took some getting used to. After a few years it started to grow on me. Having family out here solidifies it but I doubt I'd move back anyway..

True that... I have a friend who has lived there for about 40 years, lost his wife to cancer about 10 years ago, but his house is on water in a creek/cove between the bridges, and like he says, he pretty-much lives in his retirement account.. It's not anything super special in terms of a home, but like he says, the property is worth a mint. So, when he's ready to take his Boston Whaler to Florida, he's not going to worry about the money part.

Again, you live in a wonderful town, enjoy it..

dlphg9 · 12-12-2018, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dwwataz

It's weird calling it downtown because it's like 3 city blocks, but downtown Annapolis is awesome. I take my pitbull there sometimes to maul babies.

Fixed it for you. Please don't lie again. Thanks for the cooperation.

dlphg9 · 12-12-2018, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

You called?

That was fast. I have a feeling your home screen is this thread and you just refresh it for hours and hours.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1846899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. 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