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The formerdb / Filmroom QB theory with facts even
The short of it, this is NOT a QB driven league.
Say what? Well here's some interesting facts he threw out there that at least may give you pause. I thought it was interesting series of tweets. The collective CP hive mind may be blown. Big Ben attempted 16 passes a game in the season he won his first ring. Is it Big Ben, Eli Manning, Rogers that turned the fortunes of Pittsburgh, NYG, Green Bay around? Seems to me they always been pretty good. Statistically neither Brady or Big Ben's 23 SB rating screams elite to me at the times they won. Since Tom Brady has put up elite numbers, his team hasn't won a SB, won 3 with above average numbers. But it's a QB driven league Ben won with a rating in the 20's in his first SB. During Pats SB runs with Pioli/Crennel/Daboll the QB rating of Tom Brady never surpassed the rating Cassel posted in 2010. I disagree...SB have a way of getting spun overwhelmingly in the QB favor, when other factors contributed more at times. Brady wasn't elite when he won. Like I said, myths. Research and tell me they were elite when they won. what about his second and third? Never had a higher rating than Cassel's 2010 rating...is Cassel elite? Last 12 years 2 top 5 offenses have won SB, 5 top 10 offenses have won. Same span 5 top 5 defenses have won, 8 top 10 defenses have won SB. In Big Ben's title runs he led the 15th and 22nd offense along with the 4th and 1st ranked defense...but it's a QB league. if the offense can be top 10 then I would do backflips...what I am saying...ppl need to quit with the "QB league" mess. yeah, it's a media spin job...not the statistical support needed to continue perpetuating the myth of "QB win SB". From Me: @TheFilmRoom Since according to your tweets its not a QB league is it your assertion the Chiefs can go to the SB with Cassel at the helm? Cordell @TheFilmRoom If San Fran with Alex Smith can knock on the door along with Flacco, and Sanchez then I see it as a possibility. Last edited by Dave Lane; 08-01-2012 at 08:18 PM.. |
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The last 9 Super Bowl winning QBs:
Eli Rodgers Brees Ben Eli Peyton Ben Brady Brady End of discussion.
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formerdb is a good training camp writer but he is wrong. You still need a top shelf QB to win a SB. A couple of outliers of non top shelf QB's winning super Bowls doesnt make a trend. The facts are as clear as they can be. Just look at that list. Top shelf only need apply.
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08-01-2012, 09:51 AM | #5 |
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It's still a QB driven league, because stats are bullshit, and elite QBs are making plays to win games.
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lolololol
so that's why all the superbowls are won by shitty QBs...
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Got a problem with that? /Trent Dilfer
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I hate this argument. Trent Dilfer wasn't physically gifted but he was extremely smart and he proves this on ESPN.
Dilfer didn't screw up the Ravens. He managed the game, didn't take risks and let the running game and defense win. He didn't make himself the centerpiece of the offense and was a very good team mate. The result was Baltimore's first and only Super Bowl win. The following year, they drafted well and added a much more physically gifted QB in Elvis Grbac. The end result was 10-6 and out of the playoffs. I don't think that anyone would look to Trent Dilfer and view him as a Franchise QB or even an above average QB. But he was smart and selfless, which are two qualities the current Chiefs starter does not possess. |
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Agreed though, Dilfer was the definition of game manager.
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It's not impossible for us to make noise in the playoffs (if we are lucky enough to get there) if our defense and run game are great. However, at some point your QB has to make big plays against good defenses, and Cassel has shown he can't do that.
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I can't respect anything the guy posts anymore after that mind-numbingly stupid display.
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