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houstonwhodat · 02-19-2013, 06:15 AM

Jail won't kill him, probably the best thing for him. Forced rehab.

As long as it's not a felony employers will overlook someone who reached out for help for their own problems.

That's tough to do.

soopamanluva · 02-19-2013, 07:16 AM

You didn't do anything wrong. The relationship between him and his daughter. ..he ruined that. Drug charge...his fault. He wasn't thinking about any of that when he decided to get high. He chose to ruin his life, youre just helping save it. No guilt for what you did.

In58men · 02-19-2013, 07:20 AM

I'd do the same thing, he'll be treated in a rehab center. More then likely he'll be on methadone for the rest of his life. He should have never put you through that situation in the first place. Very selfish on his part. Kudos for taking a stand.

Fishpicker · 02-19-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

More then likely he'll be on methadone for the rest of his life.

I hope not. methadone is worse than actual smack from what I've seen. my cousin was on it for several years and it made her a zombie. her doctor switched her to subuxone (sp?) and she got a lot better pretty quickly. she still has problems but at least she isn't in a stupor 24/7.

stevieray · 02-19-2013, 08:57 AM

great advice in this thread....

realize if he's using heroin, he's stuffing down major pain....the only good thing out of this is now can be the breaking point of facing his demons and heading down the road to recovery.

props to you for being willing to step up and help. major courage.

**Buehler445** · 02-19-2013, 09:00 AM

Man, I'm really sorry to hear this. There is not much I can do to help except pray for you and your family.

I hope your interview goes well.

All the best.

Dayze · 02-19-2013, 10:04 AM

never been through it. but I've heard from people who have that used both approaches.
either kicking their ass into gear/tough love, or the more therapudic method.

both were successful, but I'd imagine each situation is completely different.

I'd go with the treatment deal; kicking his ass into the treament center if necessary.

Jenson71 · 02-19-2013, 10:22 AM

Sorry to hear about this situation, and I hope it turns out okay for him. As far as feeling guilty about getting him in trouble, keep in mind it was him that put you unwillingly into that situation. He was bound to get in trouble one way or another, either death or drug stings or high in public. No one ever sits at home shooting heroin and ends up making something of their life.

griZZly64 · 02-20-2013, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by La literatura

Sorry to hear about this situation, and I hope it turns out okay for him. As far as feeling guilty about getting him in trouble, keep in mind it was him that put you unwillingly into that situation. He was bound to get in trouble one way or another, either death or drug stings or high in public. No one ever sits at home shooting heroin and ends up making something of their life.

you watch too many movies. drug sting? laugh

NewChief · 02-19-2013, 10:34 AM

With other drugs, I might counsel differently, but you need to realize the dire consequences of opiate addiction. It is, literally, a life or death situation.

If your brother were tiptoeing blindfolded along a 2x4 between two buildings 500 ft. in the air, you'd probably tackle his ass and hold him down, which you wouldn't do in "normal" circumstances. That's what he's doing with heroin. Smack addicts always think they're "safe," but anyone can overdose. Your justified in breaking normal sibling and familial norms in this situation, just like in the above scenario, because it's literally a life and death scenario.

A good friend of mine was just dabbling with heroin and ended up dead in his apartment in NYC. It's just way too easy to OD on the shit.

So you did the right thing.

ModSocks · 02-19-2013, 10:36 AM

Jail was the only reason my dad was able to kick Heroin. He had to do it cold turkey in county, but it does work.

Now.....what he does when he gets out....that's another story.

Sometimes people just don't want to change.

bowener · 02-19-2013, 10:50 AM

For those confused by the assault charge there is far more to this story than what I have posted on here. They are still in the process of getting a warrant. Unfortunately this town cannot afford a drug dog, otherwise this would have all been settled last night most likely.

Chief Pote · 02-19-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener

For those confused by the assault charge there is far more to this story than what I have posted on here. They are still in the process of getting a warrant. Unfortunately this town cannot afford a drug dog, otherwise this would have all been settled last night most likely.

Hang in there bro, you did the right thing. Family troubles are tough to deal with sometimes.

I'm sure glad my siblings are a bunch of boring nerds(except me of course).

**wazu** · 02-19-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener

For those confused by the assault charge there is far more to this story than what I have posted on here. They are still in the process of getting a warrant. Unfortunately this town cannot afford a drug dog, otherwise this would have all been settled last night most likely.

Let me guess...was there an assault of some kind?

Rasputin · 02-19-2013, 11:11 AM

For yourself Bowener go talk to a pastor or somebody in confidentiality. It's ok to break down yourself & get a grip of understanding of the monster you and your brother face. It is on your brother to recover but you got to be able to deal with it some how for yourself too. Prayer is a good place to start and seek guidence.

God speed brother. Hang in there & stay strong.

02-19-2013, 06:15 AM	#1
houstonwhodat Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Parallel Universe Casino cash: $10004900	Jail won't kill him, probably the best thing for him. Forced rehab. As long as it's not a felony employers will overlook someone who reached out for help for their own problems. That's tough to do.
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soopamanluva Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $10005147	You didn't do anything wrong. The relationship between him and his daughter. ..he ruined that. Drug charge...his fault. He wasn't thinking about any of that when he decided to get high. He chose to ruin his life, youre just helping save it. No guilt for what you did.
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02-19-2013, 07:20 AM	#3
In58men Baba Ganoush Join Date: Jan 2012 Casino cash: $2058026	I'd do the same thing, he'll be treated in a rehab center. More then likely he'll be on methadone for the rest of his life. He should have never put you through that situation in the first place. Very selfish on his part. Kudos for taking a stand.
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02-19-2013, 08:57 AM	#5
stevieray best in the biz Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Under Pressure Casino cash: $2355273	great advice in this thread.... realize if he's using heroin, he's stuffing down major pain....the only good thing out of this is now can be the breaking point of facing his demons and heading down the road to recovery. props to you for being willing to step up and help. major courage.
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02-19-2013, 09:00 AM	#6
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $2084734	Man, I'm really sorry to hear this. There is not much I can do to help except pray for you and your family. I hope your interview goes well. All the best.
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Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $4979358	never been through it. but I've heard from people who have that used both approaches. either kicking their ass into gear/tough love, or the more therapudic method. both were successful, but I'd imagine each situation is completely different. I'd go with the treatment deal; kicking his ass into the treament center if necessary. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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Jenson71 fides quaerens intellectum Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United States Casino cash: $8330900	Sorry to hear about this situation, and I hope it turns out okay for him. As far as feeling guilty about getting him in trouble, keep in mind it was him that put you unwillingly into that situation. He was bound to get in trouble one way or another, either death or drug stings or high in public. No one ever sits at home shooting heroin and ends up making something of their life.
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02-19-2013, 10:34 AM	#10
NewChief In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Fayetteville, AR Casino cash: $9630204	With other drugs, I might counsel differently, but you need to realize the dire consequences of opiate addiction. It is, literally, a life or death situation. If your brother were tiptoeing blindfolded along a 2x4 between two buildings 500 ft. in the air, you'd probably tackle his ass and hold him down, which you wouldn't do in "normal" circumstances. That's what he's doing with heroin. Smack addicts always think they're "safe," but anyone can overdose. Your justified in breaking normal sibling and familial norms in this situation, just like in the above scenario, because it's literally a life and death scenario. A good friend of mine was just dabbling with heroin and ended up dead in his apartment in NYC. It's just way too easy to OD on the shit. So you did the right thing. __________________ In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican. - H. L. Mencken
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ModSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $4094563	Jail was the only reason my dad was able to kick Heroin. He had to do it cold turkey in county, but it does work. Now.....what he does when he gets out....that's another story. Sometimes people just don't want to change.
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Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3285421	For yourself Bowener go talk to a pastor or somebody in confidentiality. It's ok to break down yourself & get a grip of understanding of the monster you and your brother face. It is on your brother to recover but you got to be able to deal with it some how for yourself too. Prayer is a good place to start and seek guidence. God speed brother. Hang in there & stay strong.
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