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View Poll Results: If no QB then who?
LT Luke Joekel 40 31.01%
DE Star Lotulelei 30 23.26%
LB Jarvis Jones 19 14.73%
Other (who, why?) 40 31.01%
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:55 PM   #1
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Guys...I'm not trolling...if you only knew. QB drafts like last year only come along every 10-15 years...I expect the Chiefs to select the #1 overall athlete/player. I don't care who it is...but from all the reports I've seen and read it's NOT Geno Smith...you can say he's the best QB of this years draft but I don't think he's the best football player. History has shown you can find a great QB in the later rounds i.e. Tom Brady/Aaron Rogers...it's matter of coaching and I think we have one of the best in the business now...
You're more likely to find a great QB in the first round than all other rounds combined. History has shown that great late round QBs like Brady are the clear exceptions.
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:52 PM   #2
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Rogers was a first round pick.

And name me one college football player in this draft that had as good a season or career as Geno Smith has had as three years as a starter. At any position.

The only guy who is close is Jarvis Jones, and he's not close.
Smith was picked ahead of Rogers...Jarvis Jones is a linebacker...your point is???
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:59 PM   #3
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Smith was picked ahead of Rogers...Jarvis Jones is a linebacker...your point is???
You said the Chiefs would take the best player in the draft. I said that Geno Smith is that player based on college production and upside/ceiling at the next level. I said that no one else in this draft is close to Smith in terms of college production or upside, especially when you factor in the importance of the position he plays.

I said that the only guy in this draft that has produced as much as Smith, regardless of what position they play, is Jarvis Jones. And comparably, he doesn't come close to what Smith gave you for the 2012 or his career.

And I'd like your opinion on Geno's win loss record. He never had a losing season in three years as a starter. 29-13 career. Is that acceptable? You made a point of it earlier.
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:59 PM   #4
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Smith was picked ahead of Rogers...Jarvis Jones is a linebacker...your point is???
Do you remember the reason Smith was chosen over Rodgers by th 9ers?
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:53 PM   #5
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So, at the end of the day, you only want draft a QB if he's a sure thing.

The true fan mantra applied to the draft.

Play not to lose.
No...I didn't say that..
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:03 PM   #6
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No...I didn't say that..
That is exactly what you're saying.

And to your next post, there is no such thing as a sure thing, not even Luck.

There are only levels of risk.
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So, at the end of the day, you only want draft a QB if he's a sure thing.

The true fan mantra applied to the draft.

Play not to lose.
And for the number one pick...YES!! He should be a sure thing..
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And for the number one pick...YES!! He should be a sure thing..
No player is.

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John Elway was a sure thing. Peyton Manning was a sure thing. Ernie Accorsi felt that Eli Manning was a sure thing. Andrew Luck was a sure thing.
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John Elway was a sure thing. Peyton Manning was a sure thing. Ernie Accorsi felt that Eli Manning was a sure thing. Andrew Luck was a sure thing.
Jim Plunket was a sure thing.
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Jim Plunket was a sure thing.
Well, he did win two Super Bowls.



The Patriots back then were awful. It's crazy that they pushed out Plunkett for Grogan, and I liked Grogan.
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John Elway was a sure thing. Peyton Manning was a sure thing. Ernie Accorsi felt that Eli Manning was a sure thing. Andrew Luck was a sure thing.
Half the league was divided on Manning versus Leaf. That's not a sure thing.
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Half the league was divided on Manning versus Leaf. That's not a sure thing.


Who cares if half the league over-thinks players? There was absolutely no chance that Peyton Manning would bust.

Leaf had scary psych evaluations that Beathard ignored because his ass was on the line.
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John Elway was a sure thing. Peyton Manning was a sure thing. Ernie Accorsi felt that Eli Manning was a sure thing. Andrew Luck was a sure thing.
Reid might believe Smith/Barkley is a sure thing.
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John Elway was a sure thing. Peyton Manning was a sure thing. Ernie Accorsi felt that Eli Manning was a sure thing. Andrew Luck was a sure thing.
errrr, wrong.

elway I can't attest to--I was less than four months old.

manning was such a sure-thing that OVER HALF OF THE NFL GMS WOULD HAVE PICKED RYAN LEAF OVER HIM

eli and andrew luck were both GOOD coming out, but certainly not 'sure things.' as close as you can get, but NOT sure things.
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