Life Sleep apnea. Anyone here? - Page 5

Holladay · 08-16-2016, 11:50 PM

The wife says I quit breathing whilst asleep. Yes, I snore but give a crap. We all do.

I just noticed this today when I was trying to take a nap. I kept waking up with a snort and out of breath!

I am 51 aged, 5'8", 180 lbs. I try and eat healthy. I don't get enough exercise, I have high bp and am taking cholestoral crap meds, drink too much et. al.

I did a sleep test 10 yrs ago with no bad results. I am thinking with age, things have changed. I seem to be tried all the time. I put it down as age, work etc.

I don't want to do the "C-Pap" machine, or cut out my uvula (not vulva). I was going to look into the mouth piece thingie that holds out your lower jaw?

I will probably do another sleep test, but think this time they will say I have a problem. Again, don't want to be hooked up to a machine at night (C-Pap).

Has anyone been through this and what was the best solution.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-17-2016, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

Same thing happened to a friend of mine Dane. What a goat rope.

That sucks, man. The freakin' surgery cost $40k (with two nights in the hospital). I'd never been a pain killer guy but during those nights, I was hitting the morphine button every 5 minutes.

My wife was pregnant and having her baby shower so a good friend picked me up at the hospital when I was ready to be released. He said I looked like a ghost and because I was so hopped up on morphine every 5 minutes for the previous 48 hours, I felt like I was in a dream.

It sucked.

Frosty · 08-17-2016, 02:28 PM

There is a new surgery that is very effective for apnea. They actually cut loose your jaw and reposition your bottom teeth forward. however, it is a major, major surgery and most insurance companies will not pay for it yet, so I guess I am stuck with the machine for now.

OctoberFart · 08-17-2016, 02:40 PM

Yep because I'm pushing 320 and have a chin like Chip Kelly.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-17-2016, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

There is a new surgery that is very effective for apnea. They actually cut loose your jaw and reposition your bottom teeth forward. however, it is a major, major surgery and most insurance companies will not pay for it yet, so I guess I am stuck with the machine for now.

After my experience, I will never undergo an elective surgery, ever again.

The machine is no big deal.

BWillie · 08-17-2016, 03:28 PM

Does sleep apnea mainly happen for back sleepers? I sleep on my stomach. From what I understand, it may be more prone to back sleepers (?) becacuse their jowels and neck fat start to clog the airway a little bit when you sleep on your back.

I couldn't ever imagine being able to sleep with a mask, since I sleep on my stomach. My face is like straight against the pillow. I have not been able to sleep on my back one time in my entire life.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 08-17-2016, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Does sleep apnea mainly happen for back sleepers? I sleep on my stomach. From what I understand, it may be more prone to back sleepers (?) becacuse their jowels and neck fat start to clog the airway a little bit when you sleep on your back.

I couldn't ever imagine being able to sleep with a mask, since I sleep on my stomach. My face is like straight against the pillow. I have not been able to sleep on my back one time in my entire life.

I sleep that way, too. Works fine.

seclark · 08-17-2016, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

I dealt with sleep apnea for a long time. Then I quit smoking, lost some weight, and quit drinking like an alcoholic every night, and I don't have problems with it anymore.

thanks for the kick in the nuts.
i don't smoke.
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**PHOG** · 08-17-2016, 06:12 PM

Doc wanted to put me on it, I said no, and have never looked back...I know some friends that had to have it, and it has helped them. I guess it's the mask thing for me anyway. (shudder) I wouldn't be able to sleep with that ****ing thing on, just me.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 08-17-2016, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG

Doc wanted to put me on it, I said no, and have never looked back...I know some friends that had to have it, and it has helped them. I guess it's the mask thing for me anyway. (shudder) I wouldn't be able to sleep with that ****ing thing on, just me.

You'd get used to it.

Holladay · 08-17-2016, 06:16 PM

Ditto the kick in the nuts. Additionally for the vicious circle of exercise and tiredness. That is my boat. I am not THAT fat. 5'8" 185 lbs sounds bad, but lifted in the army and fighting weight is 165, thus 20 over...not obese.

Sure the smoking and drinking (fairly heavy) don't help.

To Dane...WHOLLY CRAP. I think I'd rather be able to take a nap in the afternoon. WOW. You sure went down a rabbit hole!!

It sounds like insurance will cover some. The wife has some good S*(^T. I will have her look into it. I will PM Tooge. He isn't to far away. I guess, over the years I have lost my GUMSHIN. I would like it back. I figured it was age. But when I did get a chance a few days ago to nap at the office and couldn't, alarm bells went off.

A side note, and a possible other thread, who here sleeps with their wife? Or doesn't because of snoring?

Frosty · 08-17-2016, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Holladay

A side note, and a possible other thread, who here sleeps with their wife? Or doesn't because of snoring?

I was this -][- close to moving into my son's room after he left for college because of my snoring. I was starting to be afraid my wife would stab me during the night.

She is a very sound sleeper, thankfully, but I go to bed before she does so it makes it hard for her to get to sleep if I am snoring away. The mask saved me there.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-17-2016, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

I sleep that way, too. Works fine.

Me, too but I tend to sleep on my side, which is what the doctors recommend.

Now that I'm used to it, I don't find the mask to be a hindrance whatsoever but just like with any changes, it takes a little time to get used to the feeling.

Also, my Phillips sends data every night, which I can log in and check, and I haven't had an apnea event since I started last October.

rico · 08-17-2016, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I probably mentioned this in related thread but I've snored all of my life. I also felt just fine until 2007, when my wife mentioned it to a doctor friend of ours and she gave a recommendation of a Head & Neck specialist. He checked me out and couldn't see anything visibly wrong, so he ordered a CT scan of my nose and sinuses. He found nothing and sent me to an allergist.

After undergoing various tests, I was told that I was misdiagnosed as a child and had asthma. I was only using 38% of my lung capacity and the doctor felt that this was the root of my problem. He also performed rhinoscopy, in which I found out I had acid reflux that had burned my esophagus (and I about jumped out of the chair when he touched it).

So, after 8 months of treatment, I was still snoring. The allergist sent me to a different Head & Neck specialist and I did a sleep study in which they found that I stopped breathing a ridiculous number of times per hour (like 52 or something). He recommended surgery over a CPAP, so I had my tonsils and adenoids removed along with excess tissue folded over. It was a disaster. My throat was inflamed for weeks on end and the swelling was inducing my gag reflex 3-4 times a day. I went in for a followup and told him about it, so he cut out my uvula in his office (and forgot to give me a numbing shot!. Good times!). Still, the swelling was awful and I've been dealing with it since 2008.

Fast forward to 2015 and I finally visit a doctor again since 2009. He immediately said "I can tell you have sleep apnea, just by looking at you", so he ordered a sleep study. It was awful. I had to be there at 9pm, couldn't fall asleep and tossed and turned all night, so they couldn't get a reading. I had to go back about a month later but this time, I had a few cocktails before and Uber'd over to the study. It was fine and they knew where to set my CPAP levels.

I finally received the machine in October (Phillips) and while it took about a month and 5 different masks before I got comfortable, I haven't had any issues since with sleeping or snoring. I can get 7 hours a sleep and feel great the next day, with no periods of sleepiness or tiredness. It's really amazing.

Bottom line: Avoid surgery at all costs. The CPAP is far less expensive and way more effective.

Holy shit....

rico · 08-17-2016, 06:40 PM

I get my sleep study done in November. I set the appointment up in May. It pisses me off that it takes so long to get in. I am sick of being tired and waking up with my throat feeling swollen due to snoring. I'm also not a fan of having heart palpitations... I've heard heart palpitations can be a result of sleep apnea.

stumppy · 08-17-2016, 07:09 PM

First off, thanks for starting this thread Holladay.
I know I'm fed up with it. I'm tired all damn day. After I get up in the morning and have a cup or two of coffee a lot of the time I'll fall back asleep during or right after the coffee. And feel worn the **** out all day. After reading this thread it sounds like the first thing I need to do is drop some weight. I'm 5'9 and about 195 lbs. which is about 25 lbs. over where I should be. I've put that extra weight on this last year which is about how long this has gotten to be a problem for me.
I'm going to see my Dr. next month but in the mean time I'm going to start riding my bike every day and watch what I eat.

08-16-2016, 11:50 PM
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2519480	Sleep apnea. Anyone here? The wife says I quit breathing whilst asleep. Yes, I snore but give a crap. We all do. I just noticed this today when I was trying to take a nap. I kept waking up with a snort and out of breath! I am 51 aged, 5'8", 180 lbs. I try and eat healthy. I don't get enough exercise, I have high bp and am taking cholestoral crap meds, drink too much et. al. I did a sleep test 10 yrs ago with no bad results. I am thinking with age, things have changed. I seem to be tried all the time. I put it down as age, work etc. I don't want to do the "C-Pap" machine, or cut out my uvula (not vulva). I was going to look into the mouth piece thingie that holds out your lower jaw? I will probably do another sleep test, but think this time they will say I have a problem. Again, don't want to be hooked up to a machine at night (C-Pap). Has anyone been through this and what was the best solution.
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PHOG Dazed and Confused Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Somewhere Out There Casino cash: $1940500	Doc wanted to put me on it, I said no, and have never looked back...I know some friends that had to have it, and it has helped them. I guess it's the mask thing for me anyway. (shudder) I wouldn't be able to sleep with that ****ing thing on, just me.
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08-17-2016, 06:16 PM	#70
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2519480	Ditto the kick in the nuts. Additionally for the vicious circle of exercise and tiredness. That is my boat. I am not THAT fat. 5'8" 185 lbs sounds bad, but lifted in the army and fighting weight is 165, thus 20 over...not obese. Sure the smoking and drinking (fairly heavy) don't help. To Dane...WHOLLY CRAP. I think I'd rather be able to take a nap in the afternoon. WOW. You sure went down a rabbit hole!! It sounds like insurance will cover some. The wife has some good S*(^T. I will have her look into it. I will PM Tooge. He isn't to far away. I guess, over the years I have lost my GUMSHIN. I would like it back. I figured it was age. But when I did get a chance a few days ago to nap at the office and couldn't, alarm bells went off. A side note, and a possible other thread, who here sleeps with their wife? Or doesn't because of snoring?
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08-17-2016, 07:09 PM	#75
stumppy New and Improved Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Springfield, Mo. Casino cash: $1388590	First off, thanks for starting this thread Holladay. I know I'm fed up with it. I'm tired all damn day. After I get up in the morning and have a cup or two of coffee a lot of the time I'll fall back asleep during or right after the coffee. And feel worn the ** out all day. After reading this thread it sounds like the first thing I need to do is drop some weight. I'm 5'9 and about 195 lbs. which is about 25 lbs. over where I should be. I've put that extra weight on this last year which is about how long this has gotten to be a problem for me. I'm going to see my Dr. next month but in the mean time I'm going to start riding my bike every day and watch what I eat. __________________ “As a nation, we can endure damaging policies for a four-year term. But we cannot survive a president willing to terminate our Constitution”**
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