Life Job Advice On Postion Offered

**petegz28** · 04-09-2015, 05:44 PM

So I applied for an open position with a company. As part of the application I gave my minimum accepted salary. When I received a phone call from them to set up an interview I asked what range they were looking to pay. Their answer: "I haven't looked yet but we are within range of what you put down for your minimum or we wouldn't have called"

Okay, fair enough. So I go to the interview. At the end of the interview I ask the HR person, "what range are you looking to pay?". I get the same answer of we have to pull numbers and this and that but what you are asking for is within our range. Again, fair enough.

Today I get an offer 10% below what I stated as my minimum accepted and told that is the highest they can go because the position is that and not that.

So I'm kinda like, WTF happened to "within range"? I asked twice on two separate occasions what they were looking to pay and both times I was lead to believe what I stated as a minimum was close to an acceptable level. I understand coming in initially below my stated minimum but this sounds kinda shitty, really.

Worth negotiating? I do want the position but I am not hurting nor in desperate need for it either.

WilliamTheIrish · 04-09-2015, 05:48 PM

Youre worth 10% less than everybody else obviously.

BullJunkandIron · 04-09-2015, 05:51 PM

Need more detail.

GloucesterChief · 04-09-2015, 05:56 PM

Yeah, need more detail. I took my current position with a salary less then I asked for at minimum. I got a raise to my minimum salary request in two months and another 8000 dollar per year raise at the end of last year.

So, depends on the company, rate of advancement, and living expenses in the area.

**TribalElder** · 04-09-2015, 05:54 PM

**** that

Get back that 10% and ask for 5 more

Bastards

Probably trying to low ball so you counter with the original agreement and feel like it was a win

If you want to be low balled stay where you are, changing positions should be a step up bro

KC native · 04-09-2015, 05:54 PM

See if there is a glass door review for the company.

Also, see if other parts of the benefits are negotiable. More vacation time for example.

Kidd Lex · 04-09-2015, 05:54 PM

Most organizations are moving to banded pay - but I promise you - these things are ALWAYS negotiable - usually for external hires like you especially. Believe it or not as an internal hire, your pay is much more controlled. One may be able to score the money theyre looking for through a lower base and some sort of guarantee in bonus or other form of compensation.

Anyways as an external if they want you, they will pay for you. End of story.

cmh6476 · 04-09-2015, 05:54 PM

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KCUnited · 04-09-2015, 05:55 PM

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**TribalElder** · 04-09-2015, 05:57 PM

Make sexy time on their faces

King_Chief_Fan · 04-09-2015, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28

So I applied for an open position with a company. As part of the application I gave my minimum accepted salary. When I received a phone call from them to set up an interview I asked what range they were looking to pay. Their answer: "I haven't looked yet but we are within range of what you put down for your minimum or we wouldn't have called"

Okay, fair enough. So I go to the interview. At the end of the interview I ask the HR person, "what range are you looking to pay?". I get the same answer of we have to pull numbers and this and that but what you are asking for is within our range. Again, fair enough.

Today I get an offer 10% below what I stated as my minimum accepted and told that is the highest they can go because the position is that and not that.

So I'm kinda like, WTF happened to "within range"? I asked twice on two separate occasions what they were looking to pay and both times I was lead to believe what I stated as a minimum was close to an acceptable level. I understand coming in initially below my stated minimum but this sounds kinda shitty, really.

Worth negotiating? I do want the position but I am not hurting nor in desperate need for it either.

The 10% diff is in their range

Eleazar · 04-09-2015, 06:18 PM

Ask them to hire you at a more senior version of that position. It will have a higher salary range. If they say no then you say that you have to decline.

If they aren't willing to pay you your current salary plus some for switching then whatever. They can't really expect people to take a pay cut to work for them.

**Scorp** · 04-09-2015, 06:22 PM

Remember this is the only time "you" have any power. Stay strong and stick to your guns. Ask for a company car, 6 weeks vacation pay and all holidays off. Also you will need a secretary that is 23 and will do whatever you ask.

You are welcome.

mdstu · 04-09-2015, 06:22 PM

Assuming the amount you put as a minimum is really your minimum:

Counter with 10% over your minimum. If they don't counter with atleast your minimum, thank them for their time and walk.

**petegz28** · 04-09-2015, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdstu

Assuming the amount you put as a minimum is really your minimum:

Counter with 10% over your minimum. If they don't counter with atleast your minimum, thank them for their time and walk.

I've heard of that strategy before. It's like the "what part of minimum is it I need to explain to you?"

04-09-2015, 05:44 PM	Topic Starter
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2774127	Job Advice On Postion Offered So I applied for an open position with a company. As part of the application I gave my minimum accepted salary. When I received a phone call from them to set up an interview I asked what range they were looking to pay. Their answer: "I haven't looked yet but we are within range of what you put down for your minimum or we wouldn't have called" Okay, fair enough. So I go to the interview. At the end of the interview I ask the HR person, "what range are you looking to pay?". I get the same answer of we have to pull numbers and this and that but what you are asking for is within our range. Again, fair enough. Today I get an offer 10% below what I stated as my minimum accepted and told that is the highest they can go because the position is that and not that. So I'm kinda like, WTF happened to "within range"? I asked twice on two separate occasions what they were looking to pay and both times I was lead to believe what I stated as a minimum was close to an acceptable level. I understand coming in initially below my stated minimum but this sounds kinda shitty, really. Worth negotiating? I do want the position but I am not hurting nor in desperate need for it either.
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04-09-2015, 06:22 PM	#14
mdstu Let's get a snack Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cincinnati Casino cash: $1568901	Assuming the amount you put as a minimum is really your minimum: Counter with 10% over your minimum. If they don't counter with atleast your minimum, thank them for their time and walk.
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