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Old 11-04-2013, 05:32 PM  
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****Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread ****
2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014?
  • This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.
  • Reached three World Series in the last decade, and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
  • Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.
  • Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
  • 60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
  • Only one of the last 14 seasons has been a losing one.
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:44 PM   #961
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Let's not forget that Matheny shortened the rotation for no good reason.
uhhhhhh Lyons is only good for one trip through a lineup.

Besides, everyone is on normal rest. Waino's performance today was not Mathenys fault. Waino is pitching at Cy Young level this year. He's never lost at Wrigley. Every pitcher has bad days.

I won a little league candy sale contest and won a trip to see the Cardinals. Bob Gibson was scheduled to pitch. I was so excited I was going to see Bob Gibson pitch. He sucked that day. The next game he threw a one hit complete game shutout.
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:50 PM   #962
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I believe it's 18-12 and it will be 26-12 by the end of this road trip. ****ing ridiculous.
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Old 05-02-2014, 09:16 PM   #963
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I believe it's 18-12
You are correct sir. 16 game hitting streak.
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Old 05-02-2014, 09:22 PM   #964
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Seems like only a matter of whether the team can hold off calling him up now to fight the offensive slump for wait for latter this month for contract purposes. Dude is hitting.
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Seems like only a matter of whether the team can hold off calling him up now to fight the offensive slump for wait for latter this month for contract purposes. Dude is hitting.
What is the date when they don't burn a year of service?
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Old 05-02-2014, 09:28 PM   #966
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What is the date when they don't burn a year of service?
Good question. Think its late this month but now sure when.
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Good question. Think its late this month but now sure when.
Looks like they can call him up now or real soon......

A year of service time is equal to 172 days, and there are normally around 183 total days in the major league calendar. This means that if a team wants to keep a prospect from accruing a full year of service time, they simply need to leave that player in the minors for around 15-20 days out of the entire season.

For example, the Rays left Evan Longoria in the minors for the first two weeks of the 2008 season; as a result, if Longoria hadn’t signed his long-term contract, he would have been under team control through the 2014 season instead of the 2013 season. Technically, this demotion could happen at any point of the year, but it’s most common for teams to leave a prospect in the minors for the first month or so of the season before calling them up.

Service time specifics
  • A player promoted from the minor leagues is credited with ML service beginning with the date he physically reports.
  • Service time is not interrupted when a Major League player is traded and reports to his new club in the normal course (within 72 hours).
  • A player demoted to the minor leagues is credited with ML service through the date of the assignment.
  • A player who is unconditionally released is credited with ML service through the date he was notified of his release.
  • A Major League player designated for release or assignment continues to be credited with service after the designation, through the date of the actual assignment or the date he is notified of his unconditional release.
  • For a player who appears on the opening day roster, ML service time is credited as of the earliest scheduled opener, without regard to the actual opening date of his own club.
  • ML service time is not credited during any period or periods of optional assignment totaling 20 days or more during a single season
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They'll keep him down past the Super Two deadline, which will likely fall somewhere in early June.
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They'll keep him down past the Super Two deadline, which will likely fall somewhere in early June.
The Super 2 deadline date could be as late as July these days. Changed from the top 17% to 22% of players. We can assume that Taveras is as advertised, he will make it into the top 22%.



Normally, players must have accrued at least three years of MLB service time before they can be eligible for salary arbitration — or in other words, until they can negotiate their salary and not have it automatically set by their club. But certain players with less than three years of service time can also become eligible for arbitration, if they meet the following criteria:


● If they have less than three years of service time, but more than two.
● If they rank within the top 22% of all 2-year players in terms of service time.


So if a player finishes a season and is just shy of three years of service time (say, 2 years and 171 days) then MLB will award them Super Two status and they’ll be eligible for arbitration. Since these players are still under team control for another three seasons, that means Super Two players get four year of salary arbitration instead of the typical three.


The Super Two cutoff used to stand at 17%, but got changed to 22% in the new CBA negotiations. This means that if a team wants to keep a player in the minors until after the Super Two cutoff, they will have to keep that player in the minors for even longer than before. Considering that the cutoff used to fall sometime in June — it varied from year to year, as the 17% cutoff isn’t tied to a specific date — it will likely end up being in July going forward.
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Arrieta is a goddamned piece of trash and the Cardinals did nothing against him. Just pathetic.
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This is not a playoff team. Sorry guys, but the offense is completely deficient, and without the RISP aberration, there aren't enough horses to score runs. This team needs to focus on scoring runs.

Also, Grichuk needs to go down, Wong and OT should come back up, and Descalso and Maness should be released.
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Didn't even watch the end. Turned it after I saw Matheny leave in Jay to face a lefty. Figured he'd already mailed this one in.
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Didn't even watch the end. Turned it after I saw Matheny leave in Jay to face a lefty. Figured he'd already mailed this one in.
Molina and Peralta lead off the 9th with singles. Jay comes up and hits a first pitch tapper back to the mound for a 1-6-3 double play. Ellis promptly strikes out on a fastball about 12 inches outside.
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It's extremely hypocritical for them to do what they did to Wong an Bourjos yet let jay, Ellis and maness continue to suck.

Wong and taveras have to come up, and play.

Bourjos and taveras need to play cf
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