Late Night Bullshit: The 2014 Chiefs > The 2013 Chiefs

[BossChief]

I have read a lot of negativity towards the upcoming season and I'm not sure why. I think that we are gonna be reasonably better.

Lots of "oh my god, we lost 5 starters"

"Oh my god, we play a hard schedule."

Blah blah blah.

1) We upgraded from Tyson Jackson to a young DL that can rush the passer. Tyson was a good fit for 90s football, but guys that get 2-3 pressures per game like Walker are a much better fit for todays NFL...especially in this division.

2) KENDRICK LEWIS IS NO LONGER A CHIEF.

3) Dexter McCluster is a decent possession receiver, but is easily replaceable...even by a guy like Jason Avant.

4) Losing Albert sucks, but Eric Fisher was universally thought of as a "special" talent as a left tackle. If he takes this offseason seriously, it's possible he starts to show flashes of that for us next year. The guy has battled thumb and shoulder problems all year and its possible we even get an upgrade over Albert by seasons end if every scout turns out to be right. Albert was missing a lot of recent time to injury and I wish him the best, but it's possible his injury problems persist.

5) Asamoah and Schwartz both played well (even though Asamoah seemed off, he graded out very well) and its a shame to lose both of them, but right guards aren't something you invest almost 5 million a year on...that's Emmanuel Sanders money. We have 2 guards as depth that played well when called upon and its not like either Schwartz or Asamoah were irreplaceable.

6) Getting Travis Kelce back has a chance to be a game changer. The guy was catching everything in camp and Alex Smith trusted him. That's intriguing because his strength is blocking. If he can come back from that nasty injury/surgery with trust in his knee, he will be our starter at tight end and will be the best one we have had since Tony Gonzalez. Anyone that knows me and my interest in Tony Moeaki knows that's a big statement.

7) A full year and offseason in the defense for Marcus Cooper. He got here as a waiver cut late in PS last year and showed a lot of promise until Houston and Hali both got hurt and our pass rush went to sleep. He knows what it's gonna take to develop his skills and has a lot of film to study to work on homing his skills into the system.

8) DUNTA ROBINSON IS NO LONGER ON THE TEAM.

9) Sanders Commings has a lot of speed and playmaking ability and lost the year to injury...but will infuse the defense with speed once he gets on the field. Can't be worse than Demps/Lewis and has a lot of upside.

10) Knile Davis showed top end ability in camp and performed nicely when called upon when Jamaal went down. He got the taste of what a starting NFL running back feels like and that should drive him to turn it up next year.

11) Husain Abdullah playing more. This guy made plays whenever he got on the field and that time should increase this year. He was offered a long term deal for good starter money with Minnesota before we took his pilgrimage and by years end was a highly effective player.

12) Alex Smith was in his first year with the receivers last year and it took awhile to get up to speed with everyone, but when he did, the offense was able to score a lot of points and move the ball effectively. Andy Reid knows QBs and has wanted Alex Smith for years...in the playoff game, it showed why that is. The guy can be a playmaker and its possible that he play at that level all year for us.

13) Dwayne Bowe took awhile to get up to speed, too...but once Alex Started throwing him the ball, he was pretty effective and it sparked the offense. This is a big year for Bowe and lets hope he and Alex are able to continue the chemistry they showed in the playoff game. I can definitely see Bowe having a big year in 2014.

14) This draft is amazingly deep in the exact positions that we have needs at. Safety, WR, OL, TE...it's a big opportunity to seriously upgrade this team. Those picks in rounds 3-6 are gonna carry a huge premium over the quality of talent usually available at those spots in the draft.

15) Brandon Flowers being healthy. He battled injuries all year and we probably win in Indy if he doesn't get hurt.

16) Scheme continuity. The coaching staffs stayed in place, so the players come into year 2 being able to play faster due to thinking less.

17) The second wave of free agency. This draft class is gonna cause a trickle down effect on the veterans in the NFL because teams will want to start a great deal of guys from this draft and that will lead to a lot of tams releasing higher priced veterans in June...a lot of them will have plenty of gas left in the tank and those are the guys that Dorsey will want to shop for due to the value.

I guess I don't fully understand why there isn't a larger group of posters that are willing to predict a record better than last years...or at least winning 10 or more games.

This isn't the lame coaching staffs we have had the last 10 years, these guys are legit. I don't see them regressing with all this talent. Remember, before last year we thought the 2013 schedule was gonna be a murderers row and look how it panned out, you never know.


I'm thinking 10-11 wins is a lock and more wins than that are possible.

[track]

better team worse record

[hometeam]

I said it before, will say it again.

I think the chiefs will end up a better team, with a worse record.

The only losses to speak of where BA and Schwartz. I think Walker is an upgrade from Tjax, and the rest of the guys we lost where JAGS.

Also, whether its Commings, Abdullah, or some other JAG, our FS position has been upgraded. Other guys will continue to improve.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Alex Smith throwing for 4000 yards and 30 TD may be the craziest thing in this whole thread.

Looking at the last 7-8 games makes me think its very possible. Even with the slow start, he threw close to that last year in 16 starts.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Looking at the last 7-8 games makes me think its very possible.

Every defense in the NFC west is top 10 caliber. I'll be surprised if Alex can achieve that against this schedule.

[greatgooglymoogly]

Look at the secondary.

Now look at the list of QBs the Chiefs expect to face this season.

Look back at the secondary.

That's why I think the Chiefs will have a worse record. It's easy when half your opponents are playing their backup QBs. The odds of that happening again are extremely slim.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

It's not about who we lost, it's about what we didn't do to get better in FA- while other teams capitalized.

But isn't it also about what we will be able to do next year in FA because we didn't do this year in FA? Wouldn't you rather keep A. Smith, J. Charles, Poe etc. who are coming up for extensions next year than extending Albert, Schwartz and Asamoah or bringing in some other FA's for a potential quick fix?

[temper11]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I'm pretty confident that whoever ends up replacing McCluster and Lewis will be upgrades. Mays is basically the same player as Jordan, but gives our defense some attitude that's been missing.

Walker is a better all-around player and probably an upgrade over Jackson. Bailey and Catapano should continue to develop.

Our line will probably take a few steps back from where they were at the end of last season, but we will have more weapons with the addition of Kelce and potential draft picks.

We will likely come out this draft and the rest of the offseason with an upgrade at WR, more pass rush/OLB depth, a young potential starter at OG, competition at KR and PR, and more depth at CB.

Poe, Houston, and Berry will continue to make strides. As should Cooper, Catapano, Bailey, Parker, Knile, Hudson, Fisher, Stephenson, and Jenkins. Kelce and Commings give us two more young talents already on the roster.

I just don't see any reason to panic right now. We will improve overall, and our offense and the defense won't pull that tale of two seasons bs again. I expect to get a wild card spot again, but get this monkey off our back and win a playoff game.

This.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by SNR

I just gave you an example

Geno Smiith.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

*Commings and Kelce have done nothing to this point. They're Kris Wilson until proven otherwise.
*There is no definitive blindside protector.
*The schedule is likely going to be extremely difficult
*There is one game-breaking player on offense
*The safety position has still not improved
*There are only two legitimate pass rushers
*There is no continuity on the interior line, and few proven players
*The defense did not play a single good game against a team with a legitimate, healthy QB.


The '14 Chiefs are more likely to win 4 games than 11.

Glad to see you're on the 'Romo is a shit QB' bandwagon.

[Mr. Laz]

All it will take is for 1 or 2 of these projections to not work and we will be ****ed.

walking a thin line

our luck sucks so you know something will go wrong

[JakeLV]

Will they have a better record?

Probably not.

Will they be a better team as the poll question actually asks? Definitely.

Signs from years of abuse are clearly on display here

[HoneyBadger]

Originally Posted by temper11

But isn't it also about what we will be able to do next year in FA because we didn't do this year in FA? Wouldn't you rather keep A. Smith, J. Charles, Poe etc. who are coming up for extensions next year than extending Albert, Schwartz and Asamoah or bringing in some other FA's for a potential quick fix?

Charles is going to want a big payday. It would be wise to just replace him with a new young back. They are a dime a dozen.

The FAs available this year weren't a quick fix, many had a lot of long term potential.

[HoneyBadger]

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

Chiefs had a bottom 5 defense minus the fluke start and run of 3rd stringers.

Bob sutton.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

*The defense did not play a single good game against a team with a legitimate, healthy QB.

• Romo?
• Vick?
• E. Manning?

Prior to the start of the 2013 season, many here were pegging these games as probable losses. Our defense was exposed and schemed against later in the season and we did nothing to adjust. I can only hope that Sutton has spent his time this off-season figuring out how to account for the complete collapse in back half of 13. I don't think that is all just plug-n-play personnel. I think much of it is on Sutton's shoulders.

[Hammock Parties]

Romo was hurt, Vick's a joke and Manning was shit last year. Try again.