Ouch: PFW Evaluates Geno, Barkley

[AlexSmithDynasty]

I don't think Geno is a great prospect but this dude's criticism is over the top. How can he say he's not respected by teammates, it just sounds ridiculous. The fact that he gives Barkley so much credit for leadership but none to Smith just makes him sound like a straight up racist.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty

I don't think Geno is a great prospect but this dude's criticism is over the top. How can he say he's not respected by teammates, it just sounds ridiculous. The fact that he gives Barkley so much credit for leadership but none to Smith just makes him sound like a straight up racist.

When in doubt, play the race card...

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty

I don't think Geno is a great prospect but this dude's criticism is over the top. How can he say he's not respected by teammates, it just sounds ridiculous. The fact that he gives Barkley so much credit for leadership but none to Smith just makes him sound like a straight up racist.

I don't think he is actually racist. I think he is a "shock panderer" like Whitlock on occasion. This is his way of gaining notoriety. Fact is, we have no clue and neither does this guy ... so he makes some out of left field shocking statements and if they don't pan out they get mostly forgotten .. but if they do he benefits.

[AlexSmithDynasty]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I don't think he is actually racist. I think he is a "shock panderer" like Whitlock on occasion. This is his way of gaining notoriety. Fact is, we have no clue and neither does this guy ... so he makes some out of left field shocking statements and if they don't pan out they get mostly forgotten .. but if they do he benefits.

He may not be a blatant or overt racist but he has a history, he also ripped RG3 and Cam for similar stupid reasons. Seems like he holds black Qb's to a harsher standard. I guess he could just do it for the controversy and attention too.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty

He may not be a blatant or overt racist but he has a history, he also ripped RG3 and Cam for similar stupid reasons. Seems like he holds black Qb's to a harsher standard. I guess he could just do it for the controversy and attention too.

My bet is that you read that somewhere and that you aren't familiar with this guy's body of work. If you were, I think you'd find that he rips white QBs too.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty

He may not be a blatant or overt racist but he has a history, he also ripped RG3 and Cam for similar stupid reasons. Seems like he holds black Qb's to a harsher standard. I guess he could just do it for the controversy and attention too.

Much of what he said about Newton was proven right, and Todd McShay agreed with some of what he said about G. Smith, so how is that racism?

He's not sugarcoating his takes. He'd be a perfect CP poster.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I don't think he is actually racist. I think he is a "shock panderer" like Whitlock on occasion. This is his way of gaining notoriety. Fact is, we have no clue and neither does this guy ... so he makes some out of left field shocking statements and if they don't pan out they get mostly forgotten .. but if they do he benefits.

This 1000X !!

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty

I don't think Geno is a great prospect but this dude's criticism is over the top. How can he say he's not respected by teammates, it just sounds ridiculous. The fact that he gives Barkley so much credit for leadership but none to Smith just makes him sound like a straight up racist.

Almost everyone gives Barkley more credit for leadership than Geno Smith. It's not racist just because a black man is being criticized.

[AlexSmithDynasty]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Almost everyone gives Barkley more credit for leadership than Geno Smith. It's not racist just because a black man is being criticized.

I'm the farthest thing from a Geno supporter, I just thought it was ridiculous the guy is saying outlandish things like Geno isn't respected by teammates. Seems like he's being overly critical about things he doesn't know about.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty

I'm the farthest thing from a Geno supporter, I just thought it was ridiculous the guy is saying outlandish things like Geno isn't respected by teammates. Seems like he's being overly critical about things he doesn't know about.

But yet you're doing exactly the same thing by calling what he said outlandish without really knowing. All that either of you can do is base your opinion on what you've heard from other people. Do you honestly think he's just making this stuff up of do you think it's more likely that he has sources telling him these things?

[AlexSmithDynasty]

Originally Posted by patteeu

But yet you're doing exactly the same thing by calling what he said outlandish without really knowing. All that either of you can do is base your opinion on what you've heard from other people. Do you honestly think he's just making this stuff up of do you think it's more likely that he has sources telling him these things?

Well he was ripping Geno's work ethic, but everything else I heard said Geno's not a great prospect but he is a hard worker. So that part of this guy's evaluation goes against everything else I had heard on him. McShay isn't that high on Geno but he went out of his way on nfl live to talk about how good Geno's work ethic is. The line about not commanding respect from teammates just seems like a low blow. I doubt Geno's teammates or coaches are going behind his back and ripping him like that. And again I'm not a Geno lover in the slightest, I think it's absurd how much people worship him on this site.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty

Well he was ripping Geno's work ethic, but everything else I heard said Geno's not a great prospect but he is a hard worker. So that part of this guy's evaluation goes against everything else I had heard on him. McShay isn't that high on Geno but he went out of his way on nfl live to talk about how good Geno's work ethic is. The line about not commanding respect from teammates just seems like a low blow. I doubt Geno's teammates or coaches are going behind his back and ripping him like that. And again I'm not a Geno lover in the slightest, I think it's absurd how much people worship him on this site.

Says the guy named "Alex Smith Dynasty"

Talk to me again about unwarranted worship, please.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by SNR

Says the guy named "Alex Smith Dynasty"

Talk to me again about unwarranted worship, please.

Now, now SNR; we could be looking at yet another Chiefs QB "Dynasty of Suck" lasting three to four years, so his username has validity, yes.
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[patteeu]

Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty

Well he was ripping Geno's work ethic, but everything else I heard said Geno's not a great prospect but he is a hard worker. So that part of this guy's evaluation goes against everything else I had heard on him. McShay isn't that high on Geno but he went out of his way on nfl live to talk about how good Geno's work ethic is. The line about not commanding respect from teammates just seems like a low blow. I doubt Geno's teammates or coaches are going behind his back and ripping him like that. And again I'm not a Geno lover in the slightest, I think it's absurd how much people worship him on this site.

I think it's definitely fair to be skeptical of his take about work ethic and teammate respect based on other reports to the contrary, but I don't think it's fair to jump to any conclusions about his motives or that he's making things up. I think it's far more likely that he has sources telling him these things and that there are, in fact, mixed opinions about Geno's leadership qualities and work ethic.

And you're right. It is absurd how much people worship him here.

[ThatRaceCardGuy]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I think it's definitely fair to be skeptical of his take about work ethic and teammate respect based on other reports to the contrary, but I don't think it's fair to jump to any conclusions about his motives or that he's making things up. I think it's far more likely that he has sources telling him these things and that there are, in fact, mixed opinions about Geno's leadership qualities and work ethic.

And you're right. It is absurd how much people worship him here.

How can you be okay with people being skeptical about his take and at the same time not be okay with people "jumping to conclusions" about his motives ? It would seem obvious if the guy is making things up the next reason would be to ask why ? What are his motives? You cant be skeptical and not wonder about his motives.