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Carlota69 · 07-18-2014, 08:16 AM

Alex Smith says he hopes to remain with Chiefs
By RANDY COVITZ

John Sleezer/ The Kansas City Star
Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith has one year left on his contract, but wants to sign an extension with the team.
Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith still isn’t assured of what his future holds beyond the upcoming season.

But Smith, who has one year left on his contract, let it be known he wants to sign an extension and continue his career in Kansas City.

“I’d love to have it done,” Smith said in a phone interview on Thursday. “I love Kansas City, I love the coaching staff, the players … but when you’re talking about this many years and that type of deal, you want it done right. You want both sides happy, and you want it to be something that is going to last and you can play out. A lot of things go into it.

“With that, there’s still plenty of time. I still have a whole year left, and who knows what will happen?”

Smith said his representatives had discussions with Chiefs general manager John Dorsey until this month when the league goes dormant before camp, which starts for Chiefs quarterbacks and rookies Monday in St. Joseph.

“This time of year, the whole NFL is put on hold because this is the little time coaches and general managers have off, just like the rest of us,” said Smith, speaking from Lake Tahoe, Nev., where he is competing in the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship.

“We’ve continued talks, had open conversation, but no news to report.”

The Chiefs, with about $9.4 million of salary cap space available, are facing a dilemma with Smith, 30, and outside linebacker Justin Houston, 25, entering the final years of their contracts before they would become unrestricted free agents.

It’s possible they sign one of them to a long-term deal and use the franchise tag on the other next spring. This season, the franchise tender was $16.2 million for quarterbacks and $11.4 million for linebackers. Smith is due $7.5 million this year, while Houston, who would earn $1.4 million, did not report to the Chiefs’ voluntary off-season program or mandatory mini-camp.

The Chiefs cleared about $7.5 million in salary cap room that can be used to sign either Smith or Houston when they released cornerback Brandon Flowers last month, but Smith didn’t look at it that way.

“Someone told me that, and that’s not what I thought,” Smith said with a laugh. “I thought, ‘Oh man, we lost a good corner.’ I wasn’t thinking about it from a money perspective. Here’s a guy who has started virtually every game for us last year, so now we have to replace him.”

Smith, acquired from San Francisco in a March 2013 trade, was 11-4 as a starter for the Chiefs last season and the team to the playoffs a year after they went 2-14, tied for the worst record in the league.

He is 30-9-1 as a starter in the last three seasons, having led San Francisco to the NFC championship game in 2011 and helping the 49ers to the Super Bowl in 2012 before coming to Kansas City, where he established career bests with 308 completions, 508 attempts, 3,313 yards and 23 touchdowns with just seven interceptions.

Quarterbacks such as Tony Romo, Matthew Stafford and Jay Cutler, who are all in the $18 million-a-year range, don’t have near the track record as Smith.

“We’re getting pretty close to where I’m not thinking about any of that,” Smith said, “but certainly when you’re talking about comparables and what the marketplace is for a quarterback, certainly you’re looking at that, and I feel like my body of work of the last three, four years is right up there with a lot of those guys. No question, when you’re trying to put a value on something like that, you look at a lot of stuff.

“But real soon come Sunday, all that stuff is going to get turned off for me.”

Smith said it can be difficult to compartmentalize worrying about his contract and studying his playbook.

“When I talk to management, we talk about that, and that’s great, and then flush it, and we focus on football and doing what we have to do to help us win,” he said.

Smith said if a contract extension isn’t wrapped up by the start of the season, it doesn’t mean it can’t be done before next March.

“You’re talking about until next March when free agency would potentially start,” Smith said. “It’s a long time between now and then for something to get hashed out.

“Just knowing John (Dorsey) and (head coach) Andy (Reid) … they’re flexible and pragmatic guys,” Smith said. “I don’t think anyone is going to be too hard-headed, and we’re trying to get it done the best way we can"

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**New World Order** · 07-19-2014, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Yet, people mock alex Smith as a check down king for getting the ball to him.

Edited my post, but I don't have a problem with it if it results in a positive play.

And De'anthony Thomas will be a nice addition as well.

Discuss Thrower · 07-19-2014, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Yet, people mock alex Smith as a check down king for getting the ball to him.

Well.. That's because he is a check down artist.

But that's also why Reid loves him so much..

Chiefs Pantalones · 07-19-2014, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Romo puts up big numbers and hasn't won shit.

Alex Smith is Romo minus the turnovers, arm talent. If I had to choose one or the other I'd pick Romo just on boom (sadly there's been bust obviously) but I think with good coaching he could get rid of that ole mind numbing INTs at horrible times thing. The Cowboys are approaching Raider level organization destruction though with Jerry's insane ass.

Marcellus · 07-19-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Look at Smith's stats. You don't think we can replicate them with a QB via draft? Surely a QB that our scouts and coaches felt comfortable drafting could put up Alex Smith type of numbers, they aren't mind blowing, and it doesn't cost you $17 million and the draft pick is young could get better. Alex Smith isn't turning into Tom Brady (not many are that good I'm just saying drafting a guy is like having a surprise gift under the tree, you don't know what's gonna happen and that's a good thing) or improving that much more. He is what he is.

Ok I now get the root of your issues. We didn't draft him.

Your assertion we can just draft a guy and plug him in is insanely simplistic. There are around 96 QB's (approx) on active rosters right now. I can't think of a guy besides Luck who has been drafted recently, or a back up QB anywhere, that you "know" would just put those numbers up.

He isn't Brady or Brees and I damn sure would love to have that type guy, but those type QBs are very rare.

**Mav** · 07-19-2014, 09:57 AM

The chiefs don't have a tight end that is nfl starting caliber, they have a number two receiver in Bowe and a suspect oline that was suspect before Albert and Schwartz left. But alex Smith it's holding the offense back!

**Mav** · 07-19-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Well.. That's because he is a check down artist.

But that's also why Reid loves him so much..

He has had one, ONE DEEP THREAT IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER. vernon davis. He has never had a calvin, dez, aj green. Ever. That's always why he has been a check down king. Although, he never had a problem finding vernon, any where on the field.

**New World Order** · 07-19-2014, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

The chiefs don't have a tight end that is nfl starting caliber, they have a number two receiver in Bowe and a suspect oline that was suspect before Albert and Schwartz left. But alex Smith it's holding the offense back!

The o-line might get Alex Smith killed, but he certainly isn't lacking any weapons at RB or WR.

Chiefs Pantalones · 07-19-2014, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Ok I now get the root of your issues. We didn't draft him.

Your assertion we can just draft a guy and plug him in is insanely simplistic. There are around 96 QB's (approx) on active rosters right now. I can't think of a guy besides Luck who has been drafted recently, or a back up QB anywhere, that you "know" would just put those numbers up.

He isn't Brady or Brees and I damn sure would love to have that type guy, but those type QBs are very rare.

Because we've tried drafting one and developing him before and it didn't work (sarcasm) lol. The neglecting of the QB position is one of the many reasons why our Chiefs haven't been consistently competitive. I know that's not the only way to address the position but the other ways haven't worked. I hope this hand-me-down QB does though. He seems like a great guy and we deserve it.

**Mav** · 07-19-2014, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

The o-line might get Alex Smith killed, but he certainly isn't lacking any weapons at RB or WR.

Well not at rb. But you are kidding yourself at receiver.

**Ragged Robin** · 07-19-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dls6501

And yes, Alex had a good game against the Saints in the playoffs. But won it by himself? Laughable comment. No QB in the history of football can be credited for "winning a game by himself" when said QB's defense forced FIVE turnovers that game.

They also gave up the lead via 2 TDs within the FINAL FOUR MINUTES of the game, only to have Alex Smith drive down the field for a TD to answer BOTH times. First time that has ever happened in a playoff game.

**New World Order** · 07-19-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Well not at rb. But you are kidding yourself at receiver.

They're fine at WR. Anyways why would it matter? It's not like he throws to them.

Marcellus · 07-19-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Because we've tried drafting one and developing him before and it didn't work (sarcasm) lol. The neglecting of the QB position is one of the many reasons why our Chiefs haven't been consistently competitive. I know that's not the only way to address the position but the other ways haven't worked. I hope this hand-me-down QB does though. He seems like a great guy and we deserve it.

I'm not averse to drafting QBs I am averse to drafting them just to do it.

Past failures have nothing to do with current options.

tk13 · 07-19-2014, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

That's reeruned. Alex Smith is who he is. He's not a great QB no matter how you slice it, or how you feel about his past, present or future. I really don't get why some are arguing in favor of extending him. He's not this franchise's answer for long term success. Fans are just so used to shitty QB play that Captain Game Manager comes in and some fans think he's TEH BESTEST EVA.

I want him to succeed but again, he is who he is. Hopefully, if we do extend him, Reid can keep on making chicken salad out of game managing chicken shit and we keep improving the talent around him. He's gonna earn anything he gets if he survives the year with this OL if they play the way a lot are expecting them to play.

He did a lot more than manage the game in the 2nd half of the season though. That's why this contract fight is an issue in the first place.

His last 7 games, including the playoffs, he averaged over 250 yds/game passing with 18 TD/3 INT.

His agent can legitimately sit down at the table and say his client played like a 4000 yds passing/500 yds rushing/40 TD/7 INT QB the second half of the season once he got Reid's offense down. And then topped it off with a franchise QB performance in the playoffs. I don't expect him to put up numbers quite like that, and I don't think Dorsey does either at this point... but it's easy to see why his agent could sit down and say look at what Jay Cutler got, why doesn't Alex Smith deserve that too?

Discuss Thrower · 07-19-2014, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

He did a lot more than manage the game in the 2nd half of the season though. That's why this contract fight is an issue in the first place.

His last 7 games, including the playoffs, he averaged over 250 yds/game passing with 18 TD/3 INT.

His agent can legitimately sit down at the table and say his client played like a 4000 yds passing/500 yds rushing/40 TD/7 INT QB the second half of the season once he got Reid's offense down. And then topped it off with a franchise QB performance in the playoffs. I don't expect him to put up numbers quite like that, and I don't think Dorsey does either at this point... but it's easy to see why his agent could sit down and say look at what Jay Cutler got, why doesn't Alex Smith deserve that too?

While that's a good ratio, the yardage avg is very JAGish.

tk13 · 07-19-2014, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

While that's a good ratio, the yardage avg is very JAGish.

It's certainly not Manning or Brees numbers, but 250 yds/game is still a 4000 yard passer. Even in today's NFL that's still a top 10-12 QB.

Russell Wilson has had two very successful years and he averages about 200 yds/game passing.

07-18-2014, 08:16 AM
Carlota69 MVP Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas Casino cash: $9925282	Alex Smith: I don't think anyone is going to be too hard headed Alex Smith says he hopes to remain with Chiefs By RANDY COVITZ John Sleezer/ The Kansas City Star Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith has one year left on his contract, but wants to sign an extension with the team. Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith still isn’t assured of what his future holds beyond the upcoming season. But Smith, who has one year left on his contract, let it be known he wants to sign an extension and continue his career in Kansas City. “I’d love to have it done,” Smith said in a phone interview on Thursday. “I love Kansas City, I love the coaching staff, the players … but when you’re talking about this many years and that type of deal, you want it done right. You want both sides happy, and you want it to be something that is going to last and you can play out. A lot of things go into it. “With that, there’s still plenty of time. I still have a whole year left, and who knows what will happen?” Smith said his representatives had discussions with Chiefs general manager John Dorsey until this month when the league goes dormant before camp, which starts for Chiefs quarterbacks and rookies Monday in St. Joseph. “This time of year, the whole NFL is put on hold because this is the little time coaches and general managers have off, just like the rest of us,” said Smith, speaking from Lake Tahoe, Nev., where he is competing in the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship. “We’ve continued talks, had open conversation, but no news to report.” The Chiefs, with about $9.4 million of salary cap space available, are facing a dilemma with Smith, 30, and outside linebacker Justin Houston, 25, entering the final years of their contracts before they would become unrestricted free agents. It’s possible they sign one of them to a long-term deal and use the franchise tag on the other next spring. This season, the franchise tender was $16.2 million for quarterbacks and $11.4 million for linebackers. Smith is due $7.5 million this year, while Houston, who would earn $1.4 million, did not report to the Chiefs’ voluntary off-season program or mandatory mini-camp. The Chiefs cleared about $7.5 million in salary cap room that can be used to sign either Smith or Houston when they released cornerback Brandon Flowers last month, but Smith didn’t look at it that way. “Someone told me that, and that’s not what I thought,” Smith said with a laugh. “I thought, ‘Oh man, we lost a good corner.’ I wasn’t thinking about it from a money perspective. Here’s a guy who has started virtually every game for us last year, so now we have to replace him.” Smith, acquired from San Francisco in a March 2013 trade, was 11-4 as a starter for the Chiefs last season and the team to the playoffs a year after they went 2-14, tied for the worst record in the league. He is 30-9-1 as a starter in the last three seasons, having led San Francisco to the NFC championship game in 2011 and helping the 49ers to the Super Bowl in 2012 before coming to Kansas City, where he established career bests with 308 completions, 508 attempts, 3,313 yards and 23 touchdowns with just seven interceptions. Quarterbacks such as Tony Romo, Matthew Stafford and Jay Cutler, who are all in the $18 million-a-year range, don’t have near the track record as Smith. “We’re getting pretty close to where I’m not thinking about any of that,” Smith said, “but certainly when you’re talking about comparables and what the marketplace is for a quarterback, certainly you’re looking at that, and I feel like my body of work of the last three, four years is right up there with a lot of those guys. No question, when you’re trying to put a value on something like that, you look at a lot of stuff. “But real soon come Sunday, all that stuff is going to get turned off for me.” Smith said it can be difficult to compartmentalize worrying about his contract and studying his playbook. “When I talk to management, we talk about that, and that’s great, and then flush it, and we focus on football and doing what we have to do to help us win,” he said. Smith said if a contract extension isn’t wrapped up by the start of the season, it doesn’t mean it can’t be done before next March. “You’re talking about until next March when free agency would potentially start,” Smith said. “It’s a long time between now and then for something to get hashed out. “Just knowing John (Dorsey) and (head coach) Andy (Reid) … they’re flexible and pragmatic guys,” Smith said. “I don’t think anyone is going to be too hard-headed, and we’re trying to get it done the best way we can" Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2014/07/17/355...#storylink=cpy
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