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Old 01-28-2013, 11:17 AM   #1
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But where did they draft Rodger's in the first round? They got Favre from a trade. Where GB got Rodger's is much closer to #34 than #1. He was also the BPA on there board at that time. Rodger's wasn't a pick of need either.
Dorsey has spent 2 top 10 picks on DL and 1 on a LB. That's the only top 10 picks he's been in on.

Reid spent his one top 5 pick on Donovan McNabb. Outside of Tre Thomas at #11 overall, he spent ALL of his top 15 picks on defensive linemen (like 6 of them in total).

So if you want to make a case they'll take a DEFENSIVE LINEMAN, I'll hear it. There's at least some evidence (even though it's a small, small sample) that they would do it.

There's absolutely ZERO evidence they value offensive linemen that highly.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:21 AM   #2
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Oh I agree there.... I think DL is much more likely than a QB also. Regardless #1 is going to be a guy up front.

But is it true that Dorsey and Reid DO value OL in the 1st heavily?
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:29 AM   #3
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Oh I agree there.... I think DL is much more likely than a QB also. Regardless #1 is going to be a guy up front.

But is it true that Dorsey and Reid DO value OL in the 1st heavily?
Of course they value OL in the first...

In the SECOND half of the first, not the first half...
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:21 AM   #4
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Dorsey has spent 2 top 10 picks on DL and 1 on a LB. That's the only top 10 picks he's been in on.

Reid spent his one top 5 pick on Donovan McNabb. Outside of Tre Thomas at #11 overall, he spent ALL of his top 15 picks on defensive linemen (like 6 of them in total).

So if you want to make a case they'll take a DEFENSIVE LINEMAN, I'll hear it. There's at least some evidence (even though it's a small, small sample) that they would do it.

There's absolutely ZERO evidence they value offensive linemen that highly.
Making Jason Peters the highest paid LT in the league is some evidence. Perhaps not the most compelling, but evidence nontheless.

Reid's shell concept is built around his LT, QB, pass rushers and #1 CB. He absolutely places a high value on the LT position.

The most demonstrative pick made, however, was the first one Reid ever made. He knows the value of wrapping up the QB position first and building around it.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:25 AM   #5
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Then BPA the rest of the way.

We all know this is Reid and Dorsey's plan.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:28 AM   #6
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Making Jason Peters the highest paid LT in the league is some evidence. Perhaps not the most compelling, but evidence nontheless.

Reid's shell concept is built around his LT, QB, pass rushers and #1 CB. He absolutely places a high value on the LT position.

The most demonstrative pick made, however, was the first one Reid ever made. He knows the value of wrapping up the QB position first and building around it.
Making Jason Peters the highest paid LT in football is probably evidence that he'll get Albert locked up as soon as possible.

Given what we know about how the Eagles coveted him in the draft, I expect Albert to be our LT next year, obviating the need for some other position.

Well, obviating it for everybody except Bob, who thinks we'll tag Albert and move him to guard so we can draft Joeckel.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:30 PM   #7
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Reid's shell concept is built around his LT, QB, pass rushers and #1 CB. He absolutely places a high value on the LT position.

The most demonstrative pick made, however, was the first one Reid ever made. He knows the value of wrapping up the QB position first and building around it.
THIS, THIS, A THOUSAND TIMES THIS.

The biggest clue to Reid's plan is this concept of his 'shell'.
You need a plus LT (Albert. already here. just sign the paper. No question marks.)
You need a QB (got nothing. Nothing at all, and the only FA's available also are not anything close to a plus player.)
Pass rushers (we have bookend rushers with Hali and Houston.) The reason you see D-line picks a lot is that they always ran a 4-3, so your pass rushers are ENDS in that case. Here, they are OLB's, and we already have two excellent ones.
#1 corner-we have that too. Flowers needs some help, it's true, but we've got a #1. We need a #2 like we need air, but that's another matter.

In Andy's 'shell' concept, we are missing only the QUARTERBACK. We have OT's. We have pass rushers, we have a corner. we need a QUARTERBACK.
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