Chiefs Geno Smith is not worth the 1st overall pick - Page 4

CoMoChief · 01-01-2013, 10:16 AM

Alex Smith v2.0

Setsuna · 01-01-2013, 01:25 PM

Give him credit. He didn't compare him to another black QB. He did Alex Smith first.

Tombstone RJ · 01-01-2013, 01:25 PM

there still a lot of stuff to learn about these QBs before the draft. The combine will also be very telling, that is, can these QBs make all the throws, etc. As of now, I kind of agree in that I don't see Geno as a #1 QB draft pick, but then again, what choice does kc really have?

**Baby Lee** · 01-01-2013, 01:25 PM

I can respect the 'Geno has demonstrated the skill set to justify a #1 pick' take.

Less so the 'just get a QB already, if he fails just try again' crowd.

Buckweath · 01-01-2013, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I can respect the 'Geno has demonstrated the skill set to justify a #1 pick' take.

Less so the 'just get a QB already, if he fails just try again' crowd.

This league is all about trying to find an elite QB.

htismaqe · 01-01-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I can respect the 'Geno has demonstrated the skill set to justify a #1 pick' take.

Less so the 'just get a QB already, if he fails just try again' crowd.

The justification behind the latter stance is firmly rooted in solid logic. The new CBA renders the old "drafting the wrong QB sets your franchise back years" idea completely obsolete.

Geno has demonstrated the skill set AND if he fails, just try again.

htismaqe · 01-01-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

there still a lot of stuff to learn about these QBs before the draft. The combine will also be very telling, that is, can these QBs make all the throws, etc. As of now, I kind of agree in that I don't see Geno as a #1 QB draft pick, but then again, what choice does kc really have?

MANTI!!!

**Bowser** · 01-01-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

there still a lot of stuff to learn about these QBs before the draft. The combine will also be very telling, that is, can these QBs make all the throws, etc. As of now, I kind of agree in that I don't see Geno as a #1 QB draft pick, but then again, what choice does kc really have?

None, really.

The combine is a double edged sword. For some reason, the national media has taken to stats as the contributing factor as to how a player plays. Some guy swill rise tremendously due to great workouts, and others will fall becasue of them. I'm of the belief that you have to trust what you see on the game tape over what they show working out in gym shorts.

Case in point - Jared Allen only benched 225 like 14 times, or some such low-ish number at the combine. Show me a team that wouldn't want him on their roster today.

**Baby Lee** · 01-01-2013, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

This league is all about trying to find an elite QB.

That effort goes beyond 'are you a QB and are you declaring yourself draft eligible?'

Due diligence is ALWAYS owed to determine

1. Is this guy set up to be a success
2. Is he better than any other QB available to our organization
3. Is he better than all other draft picks.

kingme20 · 01-01-2013, 01:32 PM

I would say sam bradford

**notorious** · 01-01-2013, 01:32 PM

The combine will work a lot of this bullshit out.

Buckweath · 01-01-2013, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

That effort goes beyond 'are you a QB and are you declaring yourself draft eligible?'

Due diligence is ALWAYS owed to determine

1. Is this guy set up to be a success
2. Is he better than any other QB available to our organization
3. Is he better than all other draft picks.

Brilliant!!

**Gonzo** · 01-01-2013, 01:41 PM

Geno is a 1st round QB. I have no doubt in my mind. He will be a damn good NFL QB if not top tier.
We have a 1st round selection and I don't care what position it is, 1st overall, 10th or 32nd. If you have the opportunity to grab him, you ****ing take it.

If he ends up being dogshit, fine. Do it again and again until you get it right. Don't get gunshy, (like this franchise did after Blackledge) because that's how you win in this league, (unless you luck out and get a Manning via FA because he wants to bump peni with Elway).

See:
Packers
Giants
Redskins
Ravens
49ers
Etc. etc. etc.

Setsuna · 01-01-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

MANTI!!!

You'll change your tune once Yeldon and Lacey run him over. Geno is worth any pick in any round but it's whoever gets him first, might as well with the first overall pick or the Jags might do it or trade down so someone else can do it.

**RealSNR** · 01-01-2013, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

That effort goes beyond 'are you a QB and are you declaring yourself draft eligible?'

Due diligence is ALWAYS owed to determine

1. Is this guy set up to be a success
2. Is he better than any other QB available to our organization
3. Is he better than all other draft picks.

In Geno's case:

1. Yes
2. Are you ****ing shitting me? Yes.
3. Yes

Looks like a winner.

And I would say that Tyler Wilson is a "yes" to all three questions as well

**Baby Lee** · 01-01-2013, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

Geno is a 1st round QB. I have no doubt in my mind. He will be a damn good NFL QB if not top tier.
We have a 1st round selection and I don't care what position it is, 1st overall, 10th or 32nd. If you have the opportunity to grab him, you ****ing take it.

If he ends up being dogshit, fine. Do it again and again until you get it right. Don't get gunshy, (like this franchise did after Blackledge) because that's how you win in this league, (unless you luck out and get a Manning via FA because he wants to bump peni with Elway).

See:
Packers
Giants
Redskins
Ravens
49ers
Etc. etc. etc.

See, for me those two statements fail the smell test.

This widget is EXACTLY what you need, I unequivocally guarantee it.

What if it isn't?

Oh well, then go get something else.

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