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Old 04-29-2006, 01:32 PM  
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Tamba Hali? MOTHER F*** you CARL!!

If you like Hali fine.

But this was 10 picks too high to take this dude.
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:54 PM   #346
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He should be our LE and we should just let Johnston be our RE for the rest of the year. Let McBride sub in at DE and DT.
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:39 PM   #347
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Does anybody else remember the sweep play yesterday on which he stunted to the inside and blocked the entire left side of our defensive line out of pursuit. It was absolutely epic. As if abandoning your contain responsibility wasn't enough but you had to take yourself and two other linemen out at the same time.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:20 PM   #348
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Where's Cochise?

I wanted Kiwanuka or Lawson. I don't think those guys have done any better.
Kiwanuka hasn't been bad actually, Lawson tore his ACL last year.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:24 PM   #349
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Hali was the 2nd best DE in this drafted and was thought to go anywhere from 10 to 25 before the combine. He's not a reach. A reach would be what Buffalo did, selecting a fringe first rounder in Donte Whitner with the 8th overall pick.
How things change, Donte Whitner is one of the best players from this draft now...
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:36 PM   #350
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When you look back at this draft....some of the picks people were iffy about are the best picks...

Whitner was considered a reach he's one of the best players, people were worried about Cromartie likewise with him.

I guess the people who flipped out had a right to because well this didn't work out.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:38 PM   #351
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Sorry for misquoting you this is how he graded out on my scouting

D- against the run too small bad technique
D for speed
C for agility needs to work on firing off the ball
C work ethic needs to bulk up in the weightroom lack of bulk maybe due to offseason character issues. \

Overall projection 4th round patriots project pick
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:39 PM   #352
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The best player taken after Hali is Davin Joseph, I'm not a fan of taking guards in the 1st round but we'd be better off.
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:56 PM   #353
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Where's Cochise?

I wanted Kiwanuka or Lawson. I don't think those guys have done any better.
Kiwi has been better, but Lawson is probably a bust.
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:58 PM   #354
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The best player taken after Hali is Davin Joseph, I'm not a fan of taking guards in the 1st round but we'd be better off.
Johnathan Joseph and Santonio Holmes would have been better picks too.
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:07 AM   #355
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This defense would be a lot further along with Demeco Ryans or Thomas Howard.
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:17 AM   #356
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:25 AM   #357
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Hindsight is 20/20
While true. People with zero actual scouting experience were calling hali what he was before we drafted him. Although mecca is goes negative about most things his feelings on this one correct. Maxed out motor guy that was only going to get marginally better. It's nice hali plays and all, but to be a great team you have to draft some impact players.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:17 AM   #358
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For teams who can't draft worth a shit.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:38 AM   #359
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Kiwi has been better, but Lawson is probably a bust.

While Kiwi has made great strides, and lucky enough to learn from 2 of the best in the business, he's been EXTREMELY streaky, and like people that bitch about JA getting his sacks in bunches, he's the same way.

I'm fine with that, but others want a steadier sustained results.

IMO, it comes down to the fact that Hali is has been moved out of his more natural position. Sometimes it is amazing how we have personnel that can look so shitty for us, we let him walk or he signs elsewhere and actually seems to do well b/c he's targeted to sign b/c they see where he could be valuable in their scheme instead of trying to be like the Chiefs- round hole, square peg. Watching them do this with numerous guys is like witnessing Slingblade take the Wonderlic
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For teams who can't draft worth a shit.
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