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Old 01-31-2013, 06:59 PM   #1
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I had, if I were to guess, a 95% success rate in guessing the exact tip a table would leave me before they left it. The ones I missed were generally when someone tipped over 25%.
I could never do that. I had an idea of a range, but sometimes I was wrong and they left me shit. I could very rarely guess on an over 25% tip. Sometimes it was obvious, but they did it on purpose to insure they would be treated well.

As far as black people go, I bust people's balls for racism all the time around here. My experience is, in Branson, MO, they don't tip nearly as well. I've only been flat out stiffed 4 times. 3 times? Yep, black couples. Most would leave a couple of bucks on a $100 so I usually knew there was a good chance I was going to pay to wait on them, but I didn't care. Can't get wrapped up in that shit.

And the ones that overtipped to make up for the other ones, always were real obvious right out of the gate. Like you said, to make sure they got good service. We had pretty similar styles though. Treat them all the same. Treat them all the best. Let the money work itself out.
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i hate to say it, but i'd just as soon have hootie serve me my chicken fried steak, than bump.
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despite what kind of dipshit I am IRL (and I am) and on this board...I am probably THE ultimate waiter for someone who wants their food, wants it right, doesn't want to be asked stupid ****ing questions, and doesn't want to wait 10 minutes to pay their ****ing bill.

my multi-tasking and efficiency had to be industry top notch...at least compared to the hundreds of dipshits I worked with over the years

my old roommate/best friend was comparable...we used to have waiter chants to compare styles and shift notes to see how we could improve and how to handle certain scenarios...like the one time he told a table we didn't do a song for a birthday while at the same time a group of 10 servers came busting out of the kitchen to parade a table 1 section away with our birthday song
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:01 PM   #4
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Looking back on it, I actually think I treated black people with a little extra. Not for the hope of money, I knew better. Stevieray calls it my white guilt. I dunno. I did want them to feel incredibly respected and cared for while they were with me.
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Looking back on it, I actually think I treated black people with a little extra. Not for the hope of money, I knew better. Stevieray calls it my white guilt. I dunno. I did want them to feel incredibly respected and cared for while they were with me.
100% me too.

I knew when I wasn't going to get tipped but these were also the people that were going to make my night a living nightmare if I gave them "racist" service...so I'd just go above and beyond and be polite as you could ever be and moved on...and in all reality, black people I waited on LOVED me...and it's easier to bullshit with black people because they are generally FRIENDLIER to strangers/waitstaff then your typical rich white business guy who wants you to leave them the **** alone and get them their ****ing food.

I used to hate the ****ing waiters/waitresses I worked with that table dodged these people because I was ALWAYS stuck with them because I found it ridiculous no one would wait on them and it was just so ridiculously noticeably racist...oh gee, this white table sat down 5 minutes after us and they are already getting waited on and 10 people have walked by us?

I used to have HUGE ****ING MELTDOWNS in the back of house over this shit. People I worked with knew when to stay the **** out of my way...they were epic. I would go into attack mode and attack every server/manager I had an issue with and it got to the point where everyone knew just to "let it go" because I was good for about one major "attack your entire life" meltdown per weekend.
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100% me too.

I knew when I wasn't going to get tipped but these were also the people that were going to make my night a living nightmare if I gave them "racist" service...so I'd just go above and beyond and be polite as you could ever be and moved on...and in all reality, black people I waited on LOVED me...and it's easier to bullshit with black people because they are generally FRIENDLIER to strangers/waitstaff then your typical rich white business guy who wants you to leave them the **** alone and get them their ****ing food.

I used to hate the ****ing waiters/waitresses I worked with that table dodged these people because I was ALWAYS stuck with them because I found it ridiculous no one would wait on them and it was just so ridiculously noticeably racist...oh gee, this white table sat down 5 minutes after us and they are already getting waited on and 10 people have walked by us?

I used to have HUGE ****ING MELTDOWNS in the back of house over this shit. People I worked with knew when to stay the **** out of my way...they were epic. I would go into attack mode and attack every server/manager I had an issue with and it got to the point where everyone knew just to "let it go" because I was good for about one major "attack your entire life" meltdown per weekend.
You? Go crazy and melt down over something you're passionate about? Noooooooooooo.

I could ****ing envision it. Real life trolling with Hootie!
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I could ****ing envision it. Real life trolling with Hootie!
my last full time waiter job (I always waited, only bartended part time because I made SO MUCH more money waiting and I was WAY BETTER at it than bartending where chit chat is so much more a part of your job)...

I was 25-26 and I worked with either 18 or 19 year olds or 40+ washouts who hated life...

I dug SO DEEP into them when they'd piss me off and I'd always remind them of how competent I was and how I was glad I was simply an underachiever and not a complete dipshit waste of life who can't handle a friggin' waiter job while telling them I'm sure they'll have great luck in life etc. etc. etc.

I'd dig into the incompetent management staff as well...I'd tell them how terribly they ran the restaurant and how I wasn't paid to run everyone's ****ing food so if they wanted me to run everyone's food like I do every ****ing night they could at least hire hotter, younger girls for me to break down emotionally and eventually try to bang (least they could do)

the only people I would NEVER piss off were the cooks...I learned all the dirty spanish in the world to keep them on my side so they'd always hook me up when in need...that's the 2nd thing I do at a new restaurant (learn the computer first, win over the mexicans second)

looking back at my restaurant career...the only things that ever pissed me off were the incompetent people I worked with...

but I also made SO MANY life long friends over the course of 8 years...I would never trade my restaurant experience for anything...it was such a fantastic learning experience for me.
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my last full time waiter job (I always waited, only bartended part time because I made SO MUCH more money waiting and I was WAY BETTER at it than bartending where chit chat is so much more a part of your job)...

I was 25-26 and I worked with either 18 or 19 year olds or 40+ washouts who hated life...

I dug SO DEEP into them when they'd piss me off and I'd always remind them of how competent I was and how I was glad I was simply an underachiever and not a complete dipshit waste of life who can't handle a friggin' waiter job while telling them I'm sure they'll have great luck in life etc. etc. etc.

I'd dig into the incompetent management staff as well...I'd tell them how terribly they ran the restaurant and how I wasn't paid to run everyone's ****ing food so if they wanted me to run everyone's food like I do every ****ing night they could at least hire hotter, younger girls for me to break down emotionally and eventually try to bang (least they could do)

the only people I would NEVER piss off were the cooks...I learned all the dirty spanish in the world to keep them on my side so they'd always hook me up when in need...that's the 2nd thing I do at a new restaurant (learn the computer first, win over the mexicans second)

looking back at my restaurant career...the only things that ever pissed me off were the incompetent people I worked with...

but I also made SO MANY life long friends over the course of 8 years...I would never trade my restaurant experience for anything...it was such a fantastic learning experience for me.
This post inspired me to grab my computer. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS win over the cooks, and the manager of the cooks. I would talk about the other servers and managers getting some chorizo when they were being dumb shits. GREAT shit! LOL, too funny. I used to talk some mad mexican racist assed bullshit on those guys and they loved it. I mean they LOVED it! Because they knew me, and talked shit too. I briefly talked about this shit in another thread. Incredible. I really had no idea this was some kind of science that got you your way. Psychology dude. You're a natural.
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and Flop...I used to get $5 from a "ghetto" table and they'd make sure to give it to me and look me in the eye and thank me and I was so polite back to them it was sickening...I knew they weren't educated in "proper tipping" but they truly thought they were giving me a good tip and truly appreciated my service so who am I to not appreciate them appreciating me?
This has been my experience as well. It's just a cultural difference really. I've noticed it in a lot of Indian people as well; getting a good tip from an Indian family may be even more rare than getting a good tip from a black family.

I remember one time I delivered a pizza (and some wings of course) to a black family. This big ass black dude answered the door. I gave him the food and told him the total- like $29 I want to say. So he's counting out the money and hands me a $20. Hands me a $5. A $1. A $1. A $1. Another $1 (which paid for the his meal, obviously). Then he looks at me, hands me another $1 and says "'Preciate'cha, bauce". I was like "Damn, man. You really think you're doing me a favor bestowing upon me a single dollar!?" But it was alright though. That's just the way he rolls.

Another time I remember I was chilling with my friend (who's black) and his family at some restaurant. His family consisted of dad, mom, him, his 3 brothers, and a sister. So 7 people ate a meal at a sit-in restaurant. You can only imagine what the bill would be, even at a lower class establishment. So we leave and for some reason we ended up talking about the waitress. So he goes: "Yeah, man. We tipped her GOOD." With a reeaalll strong emphasis on "GOOOOODD".............. I saw that they had left her $8 bucks

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100% me too.

I knew when I wasn't going to get tipped but these were also the people that were going to make my night a living nightmare if I gave them "racist" service...so I'd just go above and beyond and be polite as you could ever be and moved on...and in all reality, black people I waited on LOVED me...and it's easier to bullshit with black people because they are generally FRIENDLIER to strangers/waitstaff then your typical rich white business guy who wants you to leave them the **** alone and get them their ****ing food.
And this has also been my experience

Why do you hate black people, bro?

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The incident? When they brought the dinners, they accidentally set the man's entree in front of the woman, and vice versa. When they complained, the waiter picked up the two plates and switched them, and they thought he should have thrown the food away and brought two new entrees.
This just pissed me off.
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and Flop...I used to get $5 from a "ghetto" table and they'd make sure to give it to me and look me in the eye and thank me and I was so polite back to them it was sickening...I knew they weren't educated in "proper tipping" but they truly thought they were giving me a good tip and truly appreciated my service so who am I to not appreciate them appreciating me?

I always made enough money...I didn't feel the need to typecast my tables. Some people just don't know the proper etiquette...it is what it is. An asshole is an asshole, though. I loved when people would come in and just be angry at the world from the get go...why does those miserable people even want to go out? Or breathe?
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and Flop...I used to get $5 from a "ghetto" table and they'd make sure to give it to me and look me in the eye and thank me and I was so polite back to them it was sickening...I knew they weren't educated in "proper tipping" but they truly thought they were giving me a good tip and truly appreciated my service so who am I to not appreciate them appreciating me?

I always made enough money...I didn't feel the need to typecast my tables. Some people just don't know the proper etiquette...it is what it is. An asshole is an asshole, though. I loved when people would come in and just be angry at the world from the get go...why does those miserable people even want to go out? Or breathe?
Have you ever checked out cruise ship reviews? A misplaced origami towel will ruin the whole trip. It's scary.

When I did my Alaska trip back in 2010, I came back from Anchorage to Vancouver on a cruise ship. It was inexpensive and much nicer than flying. I didn't have dress clothes so I didn't attend the "formal dinners", but a couple at my table apparently flew into a wild rage at an incident at one of the dinners. I was told later by another person at the table that there was yelling and anguish and in the end the couple walked out of the dining room never to return. The other people at the table were mortified to be sitting there while it was going on.

The incident? When they brought the dinners, they accidentally set the man's entree in front of the woman, and vice versa. When they complained, the waiter picked up the two plates and switched them, and they thought he should have thrown the food away and brought two new entrees.
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Have you ever checked out cruise ship reviews? A misplaced origami towel will ruin the whole trip. It's scary.

When I did my Alaska trip back in 2010, I came back from Anchorage to Vancouver on a cruise ship. It was inexpensive and much nicer than flying. I didn't have dress clothes so I didn't attend the "formal dinners", but a couple at my table apparently flew into a wild rage at an incident at one of the dinners. I was told later by another person at the table that there was yelling and anguish and in the end the couple walked out of the dining room never to return. The other people at the table were mortified to be sitting there while it was going on.

The incident? When they brought the dinners, they accidentally set the man's entree in front of the woman, and vice versa. When they complained, the waiter picked up the two plates and switched them, and they thought he should have thrown the food away and brought two new entrees.
People like that are the worst kind of people. A dude named Jamaal once told me when he was training me at a restaurant years ago...he said, "dawg, at the end of the day, we human...we're going to make mistakes. We aren't computers." I liked Jamaal.
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People like that are the worst kind of people. A dude named Jamaal once told me when he was training me at a restaurant years ago...he said, "dawg, at the end of the day, we human...we're going to make mistakes. We aren't computers." I liked Jamaal.
Since I wasn't there, the male of the couple saw me somewhere else on the ship a couple of days later and chased me down. He was explaining to me what happened and was really trying to convince me how bad it was and how they had to take a stand. Meanwhile, the other people at the table told me that they wanted to go hide because it was such a scene over absolutely nothing.
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Since I wasn't there, the male of the couple saw me somewhere else on the ship a couple of days later and chased me down. He was explaining to me what happened and was really trying to convince me how bad it was and how they had to take a stand. Meanwhile, the other people at the table told me that they wanted to go hide because it was such a scene over absolutely nothing.
I never ran into anything like that...most likely because the restaurants I worked at generally expected their food to be sort of "auctioned" off in big groups. I didn't like doing that and I always had a great waiter memory so I usually put the plates where they belonged but the servers who "auctioned" never got yelled at or anything. Most people were just ****ing happy there food had arrived and were ready to eat!

I learned though...some people are just ridiculous. Nothing you can do but laugh. I never really took offense to anything I always just lived by the "meh, at least I don't have to wake up and be them!" mantra.
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Have you ever checked out cruise ship reviews? A misplaced origami towel will ruin the whole trip. It's scary.

When I did my Alaska trip back in 2010, I came back from Anchorage to Vancouver on a cruise ship. It was inexpensive and much nicer than flying. I didn't have dress clothes so I didn't attend the "formal dinners", but a couple at my table apparently flew into a wild rage at an incident at one of the dinners. I was told later by another person at the table that there was yelling and anguish and in the end the couple walked out of the dining room never to return. The other people at the table were mortified to be sitting there while it was going on.

The incident? When they brought the dinners, they accidentally set the man's entree in front of the woman, and vice versa. When they complained, the waiter picked up the two plates and switched them, and they thought he should have thrown the food away and brought two new entrees.
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