Josh Gordon flunked another drug test

[Hammock Parties]

Browns WR Josh Gordon flunked another drug test and now will be subject to a one-year banishment, per league sources. More on ESPN @ 6 pm.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 25, 2015

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

How many pro athletes have been busted for drinking alcohol in moderation?

I'd be curious to know if the no alcohol policy is a common punishment following a dwi or substance abuse penalty. If it isn't, it's strange that it was for Gordon. If it is, I have a really, really hard time believing every athlete busted for those things stayed completely sober during their entire probation. If he's telling the truth, it sounds like he got busted for the equivalent of jaywalking to me.

It's common for any company that has an eap program to randomly test employees. If the employee got in trouble for drugs and alcohol, they are tested for drugs and alcohol. I've seen lots of people who couldn't stay clean at the risk of their job, but it takes a special kind of dumbass to piss away a chance at 100 million dollars.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

It's common for any company that has an eap program to randomly test employees. If the employee got in trouble for drugs and alcohol, they are tested for drugs and alcohol. I've seen lots of people who couldn't stay clean at the risk of their job, but it takes a special kind of dumbass to piss away a chance at 100 million dollars.

He is the first person I can think of in any sport who tested positive for alcohol. I get that it's policy. But I highly, highly doubt this ever gets enforced or else every player on probation would get busted. If he's telling the truth I would hope the NFL would choose not to throw the book at him. If he truly has been on good behavior which I think can be easily verified, it seems against the purpose of the penalty to bust him over a few drinks. I just think the expectation that a 23 year old in the NFL give up alcohol cold turkey is really unrealistic.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

If what he is saying is true, then we're talking about a guy getting busted in a big way for really minor infractions. Don't get me wrong. He deserves to be busted. But it makes me think a lot less of him if he's truly getting busted for non-addictive behaviors. To some degree, it might just be really bad luck.

His story is -

He used to smoke weed, grew up with it. Got busted in college 2x.

Because of that comes into the NFL on the drug program and tested positive for Codeine because he had no idea his Dr prescribed cough syrup could be an issue.

He gets a DUI

He test positive for weed due to second hand smoke.

He test positive for alcohol because he thought 1 day after the season he was fine to do what he wants.

He isn't unlucky, at best he is an idiot.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

His story is -

He used to smoke weed, grew up with it. Got busted in college 2x.

Because of that comes into the NFL on the drug program and tested positive for Codeine because he had no idea his Dr prescribed cough syrup could be an issue.

He gets a DUI

He test positive for weed due to second hand smoke.

He test positive for alcohol because he thought 1 day after the season he was fine to do what he wants.

He isn't unlucky, at best he is an idiot.

No doubt he's an idiot. I do think his last 3 violations have been borderline enough to say just maybe there's some truth to his so called excuses. Getting caught is getting caught. Dude doesn't seem to be complaining he was caught. He seems to try to change the media message that he's falling apart.

If he's lying about turning his life around, the NFL can probably confirm that pretty quickly. But if he is, and it seems pretty sincere, then yeah I'd feel bad if he gets busted over a positive alcohol test.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

His story is -

He used to smoke weed, grew up with it. Got busted in college 2x.

Because of that comes into the NFL on the drug program and tested positive for Codeine because he had no idea his Dr prescribed cough syrup could be an issue.

He gets a DUI

He test positive for weed due to second hand smoke.

He test positive for alcohol because he thought 1 day after the season he was fine to do what he wants.

He isn't unlucky, at best he is an idiot.

he seems nice.

[Chiefnj2]

Why would anyone feel bad for him? He's continually messed up. He has God given talent that others can only dream of. If he could stay away from drugs and alcohol for 3 years he wouldn't have to work another day in his life. He pissed it away. He could call his agent or a member of the Browns staff 24/7 with any question he might have. Now that the season is over can I have a drink? Nope, the so called guy who isn't even a social drinker boozes it up the first chance he can get. The so called guy who doesn't drink - he's mixing beer and alcohol a mile high partying it up. I'm sure he was going to stop drinking when he landed and it's all a misunderstanding. He was going to be the designated driver in Vegas.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Why would anyone feel bad for him? He's continually messed up. He has God given talent that others can only dream of. If he could stay away from drugs and alcohol for 3 years he wouldn't have to work another day in his life. He pissed it away. He could call his agent or a member of the Browns staff 24/7 with any question he might have. Now that the season is over can I have a drink? Nope, the so called guy who isn't even a social drinker boozes it up the first chance he can get. The so called guy who doesn't drink - he's mixing beer and alcohol a mile high partying it up. I'm sure he was going to stop drinking when he landed and it's all a misunderstanding. He was going to be the designated driver in Vegas.

Nobody said they feel bad for him. I actually think his letter seemed well thought out and very sincere. He's a 23 year old kid. He wasn't driving or doing illegal drugs. He wasn't getting into fights. He had a few drinks on a TEAM TRIP. His receivers coach was there and he of all people should have been the one who should have known better.

A lot of judgment over a guy having a few legal drinks with no evidence that he was on bad behavior. I get why he was punished. But testing positive for alcohol... I just haven't heard anybody get busted for that. It just seems weird to me.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Nobody said they feel bad for him. I actually think his letter seemed well thought out and very sincere. He's a 23 year old kid. He wasn't driving or doing illegal drugs. He wasn't getting into fights. He had a few drinks on a TEAM TRIP. His receivers coach was there and he of all people should have been the one who should have known better.

A lot of judgment over a guy having a few legal drinks with no evidence that he was on bad behavior. I get why he was punished. But testing positive for alcohol... I just haven't heard anybody get busted for that. It just seems weird to me.

Matt Prater was suspended for the same thing.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

No doubt he's an idiot. I do think his last 3 violations have been borderline enough to say just maybe there's some truth to his so called excuses. Getting caught is getting caught. Dude doesn't seem to be complaining he was caught. He seems to try to change the media message that he's falling apart.

If he's lying about turning his life around, the NFL can probably confirm that pretty quickly. But if he is, and it seems pretty sincere, then yeah I'd feel bad if he gets busted over a positive alcohol test.

Fortunately he is young and at this point it really is 100% up to him what happens form here on out.

[Sure-Oz]

Someone needs to have a good will hunting moment with him

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

He was on a flight to Vegas. Only four drinks is pretty damn impressive.

He only put the tip in, but he did it the moment he thought he was free.

That's not exactly reassuring.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

How many pro athletes have been busted for drinking alcohol in moderation?

I'd be curious to know if the no alcohol policy is a common punishment following a dwi or substance abuse penalty. If it isn't, it's strange that it was for Gordon. If it is, I have a really, really hard time believing every athlete busted for those things stayed completely sober during their entire probation. If he's telling the truth, it sounds like he got busted for the equivalent of jaywalking to me.

None of this matters. Nothing that any one else did matters


He had a very simple instruction.

"Hey Josh, there's a fat ****ing contract worth 10's of millions of dollars coming up and all you have to do is not drink until "x" date."

And he STILL ****ed that up.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

None of this matters. Nothing that any one else did matters


He had a very simple instruction.

"Hey Josh, there's a fat ****ing contract worth 10's of millions of dollars coming up and all you have to do is not drink until "x" date."

And he STILL ****ed that up.

Not complicated. Like I said earlier he wants to party more than he wants to play.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

Matt Prater was suspended for the same thing.

And he was also suspended for having a couple of beers. At home. Those two should both know better. But having a zero tolerance alcohol policy after a DUI needs to be revisited by the NFL.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Not complicated. Like I said earlier he wants to party more than he wants to play.

I think that's a really unfair statement to make given that it was a team trip and it was immediately after the season ended. A dumb decision on his part, but it's not like he was Johnny Manziel and drinking himself stupid the day before a game.