Pro Football Reference's simple rating system and the 2012 Chiefs

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's the NFL - every team has at least a little talent.

When you're scraping all the way down to the Lilja's, Breaston's, Asomoah's, and Draughn's of the world, you're really stretching the term.

There are maybe 10 guys on this roster that couldn't be replaced easily every FA period. Bowe, Charles, Albert, Winston, Houston, DJ, Hali, Flowers, Berry, Colquitt. Really, that's about it.

The 'this team has talent' mantra is a myth. This team has a few good players and a bunch of exceptionally replaceable spare parts. If it were well coached, it could be a .500 football team.

Really, apart from the guys that Pioli inherited, Scott Pioli's Chiefs are 22 guys off the street. It's a whole slew of JAGs supplemented by players that Pioli was fortunate enough to get from the prior regime.

Part of me wants him around in 5 years when the guys he got from Herm are done. Then we can see the true depths of his suck.

You're probably right. It is just goddamn frustrating because this team isn't this bad.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

You're probably right. It is just goddamn frustrating because this team isn't this bad.

Fair statement, this team isn't this bad.

But it certainly isn't good. Getting 10 wins out of them while facing a legitimate NFL schedule would've been a heroic effort.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

You're probably right. It is just goddamn frustrating because this team isn't this bad.

yes it is, when you have depth and foundation pieces and your GM has a massive ego to let guys go for nothing just so he can pick and choose his own positions as many times as he wants eventually means a team will hit rock bottom

the team is losing talent the last 4 years. more talent is walking out the door than there is coming in.

Letting Wade Smith walk so Pioli can draft 45 offensive lineman and waste picks so he can play safe and keep drafting guards every draft

or him drafting 45 TEs until he hits on one or 25 CBs because he lets guys like Carr walk out the door doesnt make the team better. These are downgrades.'

he had a nickel CB he could have groomed in 09
he had a guard he could have kept a 4 year starter
he had a LBer he could have used as a pass rusher
he had the best kicker in the NFL
he had one of the best young CB duos and was a safety upgrade away from one of the best young secondaries

Pioli HAD a lot of things where all he had to do was sit his fat ass in a chair and fart and not **** up. But his massive ego having to constantly add/drop players so he can get a bunch of young yes man guys in the draft, doesnt mean theres any actual NFL talent left on the team