Football Cris Carter in hot water for telling rookies to "have a fall guy" - Page 7

tk13 · 06:16 PM

This is from last year, but apparently now just coming to light. It was on the NFL's website.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ve-a-fall-guy/

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Cris Carter urged NFL rookies to have a “fall guy”
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 23, 2015, 4:39 PM EDT

A recent ESPN feature on former 49ers linebacker Chris Borland described Borland as “appalled” by what he heard at the 2014 Rookie Symposium, when a former NFL player told the rookies that they should have a “fall guy” in their crew who would take the blame if they faced legal trouble. What ESPN failed to mention is that the former player who gave that appalling advice was an ESPN employee, Cris Carter.

Although the ESPN feature says that Borland “declined to name” the player, the writers easily could have identified Carter as the source of the comments, because the video of Carter’s presentation at the Rookie Symposium is available at NFL.com.

The presentation went basically how Borland described it in the ESPN feature: Carter told rookies that they should have one friend who will be willing to take the blame if they ever get into trouble. Warren Sapp, onstage along with Carter, agreed.

“If you all got a crew, you got to have a fall guy in the crew,” Carter said. “If you all have a crew, one of those fools got to know, he’s the one going to jail. We’ll get him out.”

Sapp then repeated, “We’ll get him out.”

Those comments didn’t sit well with Borland, and they likely won’t sit well with most people hearing them now. But the NFL apparently didn’t have a problem with what Carter said: His presentation was posted on the league’s own website, and Carter was invited back to speak at this year’s Rookie Symposium.

UPDATE 5:23 p.m. ET: Shortly after we posted this item, NFL.com removed the video.

Someone uploaded a clip of the video with their cell phone. Teddy Bridgewater gets used as the example. I can't believe the NFL had this on their website.

rabblerouser · 08-24-2015, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

or MAYBE I'm a savvy businessman who has found a group of individuals ripe for exploitation

or MAYBE I just make stuff up to get people going

you decide

So...what you're saying is, anyway you slice it, you're full of shit??

I knew that already.

rabblerouser · 08-24-2015, 10:34 AM

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check the DC forum. there is a whole thread about it

Is that a dare??

**loochy** · 08-24-2015, 10:34 AM

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So...what you're saying is, anyway you slice it, you're full of shit??

I knew that already.

I prefer to say that I liberally embellish in order to enhance the narrative.

**loochy** · 08-24-2015, 10:34 AM

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Is that a dare??

Yes, if you are courageous enough.

Chief Roundup · 08-24-2015, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Exactly. They saw it on TV.

No not TV but from the example that they receive from their peers. When they hear their inner circle of peers repeating those things verbally as well as visually through the actions of those peers then the TV could play a small part in the cycle but it is still about the peers.

**loochy** · 08-24-2015, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

No not TV but from the example that they receive from their peers. When they hear their inner circle of peers repeating those things verbally as well as visually through the actions of those peers then the TV could play a small part in the cycle but it is still about the peers.

So my kid should only have white friends?

Chief Roundup · 08-24-2015, 10:38 AM

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Loochy is just the type of white-guilt liberal that he probably surrounds himself with black people just to prove to himself how "not racist" he is

I have no idea and it would be foolish to try and say very much about him personally from one or even several of his posts on this or any internet message board.

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Originally Posted by loochy

or MAYBE I'm a savvy businessman who has found a group of individuals ripe for exploitation

or MAYBE I just make stuff up to get people going

you decide

None of those would be very "flattering".

rabblerouser · 08-24-2015, 10:39 AM

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I prefer to say that I liberally embellish in order to enhance the narrative.

Typical liberal...

Problem with most liberals is, they lose sight of the difference between "liberally embellish(ing) to enhance the narrative" and "leaving reality behind, waving in the rearview".

Problem is...there are some people who take all this way too seriously. Kids watching Cris Carter at home will not understand that he's an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about. The NFL loves that nitwit, and think of him as some kind of "redemption son"...but in reality, it sounds like CC hired a fall guy when he got to MN.

It casts his entire persona into a glare of shadowy doubt. I'll bet he still drinks and does coke, after his comments in the video above...

**loochy** · 08-24-2015, 10:40 AM

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None of those would be very "flattering".

Well neither is lane bryant on a 400 lb woman, but people act like that's ok too.

Chief Roundup · 08-24-2015, 10:43 AM

Now that you have admitted to just trolling I simply have nothing to say to you. But trolling is an offense that can cause a poster to get a banning as I recall.

ThaVirus · 08-24-2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

No not TV but from the example that they receive from their peers. When they hear their inner circle of peers repeating those things verbally as well as visually through the actions of those peers then the TV could play a small part in the cycle but it is still about the peers.

Tell us more of your time spent in the ghetto..

rabblerouser · 08-24-2015, 10:45 AM

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Well neither is lane bryant on a 400 lb woman, but people act like that's ok too.

Well...they gotta wear SOMETHING.

ThaVirus · 08-24-2015, 10:45 AM

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Over-privileged why??

Because he has a job??

Because he knows how to speak to people??

Because he didn't make a list of bad decisions that led to unemployment and incarceration??

I don't get how "being white" = being over privileged.

I mean, if I were BLACK, I could :

Get a check each month

Go to college for free

get my meals paid for

Have free health insurance

Because I'm white, I not only have to pay for those things for myself...but for a bunch of other people too.

That "white privilege" bullshit is some kind of rhetoric that a sociology professor made up...it doesn't exist.

If anyone is privileged, it's the black folk in America.

This is easily the worst post I've read this year.

And Loochy isn't even a liberal. My God, you are so ****ing stupid.

**loochy** · 08-24-2015, 10:47 AM

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Well...they gotta wear SOMETHING.

No, they don't.

rabblerouser · 08-24-2015, 10:47 AM

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Tell us more of your time spent in the ghetto..

Drugs, sex, lots of ecstasy...not much production. No one seemed to want to get out of that life...

I mean, it's pretty hard to steal enough to leave the ghetto. And no one wanted jobs, soooooo...

What, exactly, do you want to know about??

South side of Chicago??
Trailer Park in Johnson County MO??
55th and Forest, between Troost and Prospect??

The worst of them all...E Dunklin in Jeff City.

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