Chiefs Paylor: Friday provided valuable experience for Dee Ford

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-23-2015, 07:48 PM

Possible cracked rib aside, Friday provided valuable experience for Chiefs’ Dee Ford
By TEREZ A. PAYLOR

Dee Ford may not have seen Christine Michael’s ferocious chip-block coming on Friday. Not literally, anyway.

But nearly two weeks before the Seattle running back’s de-cleating block, which the Chiefs fear gave Ford a fractured rib, Ford said he knew opponents were going to try various means of wearing him down, as they do with all edge rushers.

“Teams are gonna try (to disrupt) a pass rusher — you have to,” Ford said. “You can’t give him energy to rush the quarterback.”

Consider that hit, which briefly knocked Ford out of the game, a 14-13 preseason win over the Seattle Seahawks, a reinforcement of a tough lesson for a young player still making the adjustment from 4-3 defensive end to 3-4 outside linebacker.

(Click here for a GIF of the chip-block Ford absorbed.)

“If you get a running back offset there in the pass rush, you don’t want to expose those ribs, so he took quite a shot there,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid said. “But that’s a good lesson to learn on how to pass-rush in this league. Those backs can put a wallop on you if you expose yourself.”

That’s the kind of lesson only experience can teach you, which is one of the reasons the Chiefs opted to start Ford against the Seahawks in place of veteran Tamba Hali. And aside from that hit, Reid said there were some positives about Ford’s play.

The 2014 first-round pick recorded three tackles and two quarterback hurries and was enough of a nuisance as a pass-rusher — thanks in large part to his trademark first step — that he caused Seattle left tackle Russell Okung to commit a false start.

(Click here for a GIF of Ford’s first step.)

But Ford also will be judged by his ability to set the edge against the run.

“I really thought overall he did a good job — he made plays,” Reid said. “In the run game, I thought he held his own … we’ve seen spurts of it, but again, we rotate him in, so you don’t get that extended amount of plays back to back to back to back that you were able to see (Friday) night, which again, I thought was important.”

(Click here for a GIF of Ford making a tackle.)

Ford, who finished his rookie season with eight tackles and 1 1/2 sacks while playing roughly 9 percent of the Chiefs’ total defensive snaps, says he’s made growth in this area.

“I’ve been setting the edge on the run,” said Ford, who says he weighs 250 pounds — up 7 from last year. “That’s the most important part of playing outside ’backer. We don’t want to taper off. I kind of tapered off at the end of last year. It was like, up and down.”

(Click here for a GIF of the Seahawks running at Ford.)

Ford wasn’t satisfied with his rookie year, which he basically spent as an apprentice behind Hali and Justin Houston, two Pro Bowlers.

“It was OK,” Ford said. “You hear a lot of people (go), ‘Well, you did well for a rookie.’ That phrase for a rookie is not in my mind. I wanted to do great either way. I felt like physically I was able to match up with any of those guys. But I wasn’t satisfied.”

“I can do what they do,” Ford said of Houston and Hali. “But I’m not consistent, though. I have to be more consistent.”

(Click here for a GIF of Ford’s hustle.)

It’s unclear how much time Ford could miss with the rib injury. On Saturday, he tweeted that he was fine, and former NFL team physician David Chao said that while fractured ribs can be very painful, it’s the kind of injury from which one could return by week one, assuming there are no lung issues involved.

For a player who has high expectations of himself this season, that would certainly be a nice outcome.

“I expect consistent and great plays,” Ford said. “And all those aren’t going to be making the tackle. Some of it’s just going to be … knowing the situation and being where you’re supposed to be.

“That’s not easy to do all the time, especially when there’s so many motions and shifts that are made to get defenses out of place.”

-King- · 08-23-2015, 07:52 PM

I was really impressed by how he played on Friday. I think he'll cause more than a few false starts this season. OTs damn near have to sprint backwards to catch up to him.

Could hurt us because of draw plays, but the reward far outweighs the risk.

Mr. Laz · 08-23-2015, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I was really impressed by how he played on Friday. I think he'll cause more than a few false starts this season. OTs damn near have to sprint backwards to catch up to him.

Could hurt us because of draw plays, but the reward far outweighs the risk.

He was better.

Ford still plays too high and isn't physical enough but he's young.

**Shaid** · 08-23-2015, 09:56 PM

The first step is nasty but he needs to lean into the lineman so he can turn the corner. Right now he looks like he's trying to beat them with speed but he needs to get leverage or the QB just takes one step forward or doesn't need to step at all because he ends up too deep.

Coochie liquor · 08-24-2015, 05:19 AM

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beach tribe · 08-24-2015, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Wow I can't believe there is an advertisement for the newest Slightly Stoopid cd at the bottom of the page! That's ****ing awesome!!

Let me guess, you were just googling them.

TEX · 08-24-2015, 06:31 AM

Dee learned how to chase a guy and miss, then he learned how to fracture his rib and walk off the field.

Coochie liquor · 08-24-2015, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Let me guess, you were just googling them.

No, I doubt I've googled them in months. But that album is pretty dope!!

-King- · 08-24-2015, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Dee learned how to chase a guy and miss, then he learned how to fracture his rib and walk off the field.

QB pressures are valuable also.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-24-2015, 06:55 AM

He'll learn.

Halfcan · 08-24-2015, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Dee learned how to chase a guy and miss, then he learned how to fracture his rib and walk off the field.

Can't forget learning to NOT run away from the ball carrier.

Still a funny video.

O.city · 08-24-2015, 10:07 AM

He's apparently practicing today

DJ's left nut · 08-24-2015, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaid

The first step is nasty but he needs to lean into the lineman so he can turn the corner. Right now he looks like he's trying to beat them with speed but he needs to get leverage or the QB just takes one step forward or doesn't need to step at all because he ends up too deep.

Justin Houston needed to learn that as well.

I remember what was (I believe) his first game against TB. You could see him absolutely fly upfield but when it came time to get his body lean and turn the corner, he just couldn't do it. Josh Johnson kept getting him to commit upfield and would run underneath him. It took him awhile to learn to plant that outside foot and use his body to get leverage and make the turn.

I'm not saying Ford will be Houston but what I am saying is that the lean is one of those things that most outside pass-rushers don't have early in their careers. It's also something that most of them are able to get. If I get to pick what shortcoming an edge-rusher has in his game, that's going to be high on my list because of how teachable it is.

Ford is going to be a damn good ballplayer in this league. If more people would just be open to that possibility, we'd stop hearing this "Dee Ford is a bust" bullshit because apart from one play that he just mis-diagnosed the hell out of, he's looked promising every time he's been on the field.

**Rausch** · 08-24-2015, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Justin Houston needed to learn that as well.

I remember what was (I believe) his first game against TB. You could see him absolutely fly upfield but when it came time to get his body lean and turn the corner, he just couldn't do it. Josh Johnson kept getting him to commit upfield and would run underneath him.

For most of his rookie year (until about week 7 or 8) Crenel had him mostly in pass coverage. It was the weakest part of his game but he learned quick and was solid.

I don't think they really understood how good he could be until year two...

**Rausch** · 08-24-2015, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ford is going to be a damn good ballplayer in this league. If more people would just be open to that possibility, we'd stop hearing this "Dee Ford is a bust" bullshit because apart from one play that he just mis-diagnosed the hell out of, he's looked promising every time he's been on the field.

Ford, at best, will be a dominant pass rusher and one dimensional player.

He'll never be solid in coverage or against the run.

Ever...

08-23-2015, 07:48 PM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $922813	Paylor: Friday provided valuable experience for Dee Ford Possible cracked rib aside, Friday provided valuable experience for Chiefs’ Dee Ford By TEREZ A. PAYLOR Dee Ford may not have seen Christine Michael’s ferocious chip-block coming on Friday. Not literally, anyway. But nearly two weeks before the Seattle running back’s de-cleating block, which the Chiefs fear gave Ford a fractured rib, Ford said he knew opponents were going to try various means of wearing him down, as they do with all edge rushers. “Teams are gonna try (to disrupt) a pass rusher — you have to,” Ford said. “You can’t give him energy to rush the quarterback.” Consider that hit, which briefly knocked Ford out of the game, a 14-13 preseason win over the Seattle Seahawks, a reinforcement of a tough lesson for a young player still making the adjustment from 4-3 defensive end to 3-4 outside linebacker. (Click here for a GIF of the chip-block Ford absorbed.) “If you get a running back offset there in the pass rush, you don’t want to expose those ribs, so he took quite a shot there,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid said. “But that’s a good lesson to learn on how to pass-rush in this league. Those backs can put a wallop on you if you expose yourself.” That’s the kind of lesson only experience can teach you, which is one of the reasons the Chiefs opted to start Ford against the Seahawks in place of veteran Tamba Hali. And aside from that hit, Reid said there were some positives about Ford’s play. The 2014 first-round pick recorded three tackles and two quarterback hurries and was enough of a nuisance as a pass-rusher — thanks in large part to his trademark first step — that he caused Seattle left tackle Russell Okung to commit a false start. (Click here for a GIF of Ford’s first step.) But Ford also will be judged by his ability to set the edge against the run. “I really thought overall he did a good job — he made plays,” Reid said. “In the run game, I thought he held his own … we’ve seen spurts of it, but again, we rotate him in, so you don’t get that extended amount of plays back to back to back to back that you were able to see (Friday) night, which again, I thought was important.” (Click here for a GIF of Ford making a tackle.) Ford, who finished his rookie season with eight tackles and 1 1/2 sacks while playing roughly 9 percent of the Chiefs’ total defensive snaps, says he’s made growth in this area. “I’ve been setting the edge on the run,” said Ford, who says he weighs 250 pounds — up 7 from last year. “That’s the most important part of playing outside ’backer. We don’t want to taper off. I kind of tapered off at the end of last year. It was like, up and down.” (Click here for a GIF of the Seahawks running at Ford.) Ford wasn’t satisfied with his rookie year, which he basically spent as an apprentice behind Hali and Justin Houston, two Pro Bowlers. “It was OK,” Ford said. “You hear a lot of people (go), ‘Well, you did well for a rookie.’ That phrase for a rookie is not in my mind. I wanted to do great either way. I felt like physically I was able to match up with any of those guys. But I wasn’t satisfied.” “I can do what they do,” Ford said of Houston and Hali. “But I’m not consistent, though. I have to be more consistent.” (Click here for a GIF of Ford’s hustle.) It’s unclear how much time Ford could miss with the rib injury. On Saturday, he tweeted that he was fine, and former NFL team physician David Chao said that while fractured ribs can be very painful, it’s the kind of injury from which one could return by week one, assuming there are no lung issues involved. For a player who has high expectations of himself this season, that would certainly be a nice outcome. “I expect consistent and great plays,” Ford said. “And all those aren’t going to be making the tackle. Some of it’s just going to be … knowing the situation and being where you’re supposed to be. “That’s not easy to do all the time, especially when there’s so many motions and shifts that are made to get defenses out of place.”
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