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Old 08-23-2015, 06:03 PM  
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Cris Carter in hot water for telling rookies to "have a fall guy"

This is from last year, but apparently now just coming to light. It was on the NFL's website.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ve-a-fall-guy/

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Cris Carter urged NFL rookies to have a “fall guy”
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 23, 2015, 4:39 PM EDT

A recent ESPN feature on former 49ers linebacker Chris Borland described Borland as “appalled” by what he heard at the 2014 Rookie Symposium, when a former NFL player told the rookies that they should have a “fall guy” in their crew who would take the blame if they faced legal trouble. What ESPN failed to mention is that the former player who gave that appalling advice was an ESPN employee, Cris Carter.

Although the ESPN feature says that Borland “declined to name” the player, the writers easily could have identified Carter as the source of the comments, because the video of Carter’s presentation at the Rookie Symposium is available at NFL.com.

The presentation went basically how Borland described it in the ESPN feature: Carter told rookies that they should have one friend who will be willing to take the blame if they ever get into trouble. Warren Sapp, onstage along with Carter, agreed.

“If you all got a crew, you got to have a fall guy in the crew,” Carter said. “If you all have a crew, one of those fools got to know, he’s the one going to jail. We’ll get him out.”

Sapp then repeated, “We’ll get him out.”

Those comments didn’t sit well with Borland, and they likely won’t sit well with most people hearing them now. But the NFL apparently didn’t have a problem with what Carter said: His presentation was posted on the league’s own website, and Carter was invited back to speak at this year’s Rookie Symposium.

UPDATE 5:23 p.m. ET: Shortly after we posted this item, NFL.com removed the video.
Someone uploaded a clip of the video with their cell phone. Teddy Bridgewater gets used as the example. I can't believe the NFL had this on their website.


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Old 08-24-2015, 09:04 AM   #46
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What is exactly wrong with having a fall guy?
That implies that you are consciously making a decision to protect yourself before a time that it would be needed. I think that is called PREMEDITATED. Why be a POS that needs protection?
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That implies that you are consciously making a decision to protect yourself before a time that it would be needed. I think that is called PREMEDITATED. Why be a POS that needs protection?
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You don't have to be breaking the law to need a fall guy....especially if you are black.
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Can you tell me why it was stupid? Also...there is a saying "do what I say not what a do?" I know your arguement is "DON'T DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL" but these are black guys. They have a target on their back at all times by cops.
Is that the reason there is so much outrage when this same shit happens to Caucasians? You know all of the media outrage and viral videos towns destroyed....Oh yeah shit what was I thinking that shit never happens.
You are a racist POS sire.
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Is that the reason there is so much outrage when this same shit happens to Caucasians? You know all of the media outrage and viral videos towns destroyed....Oh yeah shit what was I thinking that shit never happens.
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Lol...are you assuming that's the only advice that was given? Cris Carter has been doing the rookie symposium for years. The league thinks he's a good candidate to talk to the kids because he was a dumb**** that turned his life around. I've seen snippets of his speeches in the past, he does tell them not to do stupid shit. He probably just added that last bit in there for the dummies that are going to break the law regardless. You think coaches, general managers, agents, and other NFL people aren't telling them the same thing? Cris was just dumb enough to put it on tape.
Has he really turned his life around if he is telling young kids to do this type of stuff? He is telling that message to men, children in some ways, that will view it as a way to just do whatever they want without repercussions.
If coaches and such are doing it then they are wrong as well.
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When are people from the ghetto going to figure out that there are expectations of what kind of behavior is expected out of people?
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Reminds me of when some dusty old vagina on a nun tells guys and gals not to **** when they haven't had a hard nasty dick in every hole ever. Instead of listening to that bullshit an uncle would go...dude **** all the hoes you can until you find one decent enough to cum inside.
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When are people from the ghetto going to figure out that there are expectations of what kind of behavior is expected out of people?
When you tell them


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