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Old 10-17-2017, 08:54 PM  
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NFL endorses criminal-justice reform bill in the midst of anthem debate
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NFL endorses criminal-justice reform bill in the midst of anthem debate

By Karoun Demirjian and Beth Reinhard
The Washington Post
October 16



The National Football League, still in political crosshairs over whether players should take a knee during the national anthem, is throwing its weight behind another cause in Washington’s debate over racial inequality: criminal justice reform.

The NFL’s spokesman said on Monday that the league has decided to endorse a bipartisan bill to reduce mandatory minimum sentences for low-level drug offenders, eliminate “three-strike” provisions that require life sentences and give judges more latitude to reduce sentences for certain low-level crimes.

“We felt that this was an issue over the last months, as we have continued to work with our players on issues of equality and on issues of criminal justice reform, that was surfaced for us, and we thought it was appropriate to lend our support to it,” NFL spokesman Joe Lockhart said Monday during a conference call with reporters.

The owners appear to be seeking middle ground between football players and their critics during a heated national debate over the growing phenomenon of players kneeling during the national anthem to protest police brutality and racial inequality. It is not clear what effect the NFL’s effort will have on that debate — or on President Trump, who has fueled much of the vitriol against kneeling players through his personal and official Twitter accounts.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.1f86c6a1bf32
So, hoping to curry favor with the players who are kneeling, the NFL is endorsing a piece of soft-on-crime legislation. The optics of that are amusing.

Goodell's winking and nodding at the kneeling players will probably just encourage them to take it further, not make them respect the country again. The NFL will not be better off for bowing to them. Look at Mizzou.

The NFL doesn't seem to understand what's happening here at all. Fans do not want the NFL to be political. Fans are not going to be amused by Roger Goodell wading into politics. ESPN has already made this mistake by becoming another politicized media outlet... it's fascinating that Goodell thinks the way to resolve the fan ire over this conflict is to make the NFL more political.
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Why would you get butt hurt over this? Because nothing says "hard on crime" and justice like giving some mother****er life for peddling weed? You concerned about a crime wave by getting rid of 3-strikes laws?

This polls up there with shit like, "is pediatric brain cancer bad?"
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Nobody's butthurt over the bill itself. It's just illustrative of the fact that the NFL doesn't even understand why people are upset. They don't want the NFL to be political.
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Its a good bill, but the NFL should stick with worrying about football.
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Well, one thing is absolutely certain - the NFL had BETTER get this thing under control. Viewership was down nearly 8% this weekend.

People are pissed about this nonsense and they are leaving the NFL. The ONE thing that the front office WILL understand is fans walking away.
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Why would you get butt hurt over this? Because nothing says "hard on crime" and justice like giving some mother****er life for peddling weed? You concerned about a crime wave by getting rid of 3-strikes laws?

This polls up there with shit like, "is pediatric brain cancer bad?"
Hey, ignorant irritant, these laws WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE BLACK COMMUNITY!

Voted into place by black and white politicians to end the crack/meth/heroin epidemic...
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Nobody's butthurt over the bill itself. It's just illustrative of the fact that the NFL doesn't even understand why people are upset.
If the players are upset because they feel that people like them are not being treated fairly and you make a gesture (however symbolic) to support measures that might lead to better treatment of said people, would that not be the kind of social change they were hoping for that might lead to fewer people kneeling and less outrage amongst the crowds buying nachos and checking their phones during the anthem?
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Nobody's butthurt over the bill itself. It's just illustrative of the fact that the NFL doesn't even understand why people are upset.
IMO it is more a function of trying to play nice with the NFLPA because DeMaurice (sp?) Smith has been blathering on to anyone that will listen that a work stoppage is eminent. Probably just for optics so Goodell can say hey man we worked with you on the bill (which costs no money, time, political capital or anything else for that matter).
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Hey, ignorant irritant, these laws WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE BLACK COMMUNITY!

Voted into place by black and white politicians to end the crack/meth/heroin epidemic...
Yeah, that's really not what happened, but this debate would be best continued in DC.

And you shouldn't call anyone ignorant given your functional capacity.
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If the players are upset because they feel that people like them are not being treated fairly and you make a gesture (however symbolic) to support measures that might lead to better treatment of said people, would that not be the kind of social change they were hoping for that might lead to fewer people kneeling and less outrage amongst the crowds buying nachos and checking their phones during the anthem?
And other than every possible advantage (BY LAW) being stacked in their favor what is it that would make them "feel" better?...
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Yeah, that's really not what happened...
Yes, it is.

In fact, there was a huge black lobby in the 90's to crack down on CRACK.

You might not have been around then, but I was...
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Hey, ignorant irritant, these laws WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE BLACK COMMUNITY!

Voted into place by black and white politicians to end the crack/meth/heroin epidemic...

Try reading this.
https://www.theatlantic.com/projects...incarceration/
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IMO it is more a function of trying to play nice with the NFLPA because DeMaurice (sp?) Smith has been blathering on to anyone that will listen that a work stoppage is eminent. Probably just for optics so Goodell can say hey man we worked with you on the bill (which costs no money, time, political capital or anything else for that matter).
Posturing for the labor agreement or not, it's beyond foolish. Encouraging the players who are kneeling will only cause more disrespect, and the league itself becoming a political body will turn even more people off.

Wade into "social justice" and see what happens, Rog
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And other than every possible advantage (BY LAW) being stacked in their favor what is it that would make them "feel" better?...
People like them = people that grew up in communities like theirs, not pro athletes.
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