****Official Golf Thread****

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The original Bushwood thread is overflowing like Craig Stadler's FUPA.

Use this thread to discuss tournaments, swing thoughts, equipment, and golf deals.

I thought we could also use the OP to create a WITB for ChiefsPlanet members. I'll list a poster's name and put their sticks in a spoiler tag, so you can see what everyone is carrying.

[Prison Bitch]

I guess we all see things diff. Anyone who watched all 4 rounds and claimed to enjoy it, I think is full of baloney. But then some fans do like dominance over drama. I wouldn't watch sports without drama.

5/6 recent majors have sucked ass and while I don't care who wins them, I'm going to stop spending any time on them if some douche fave gets out -6 or -8 day 1

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I guess we all see things diff. Anyone who watched all 4 rounds and claimed to enjoy it, I think is full of baloney. But then some fans do like dominance over drama. I wouldn't watch sports without drama.

5/6 recent majors have sucked ass and while I don't care who wins them, I'm going to stop spending any time on them if some douche fave gets out -6 or -8 day 1

I watched a lot of it, and I'm not sure I agree. With golf you can appreciate the individual awesomeness that we saw, and on the last day there were a few times when it looked like others might be able to close the gap if he slipped, but he didn't (at least not enough).

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

I agree the coverage was pitiful...but couldnt disagree more with the rest of your post.

It sounded like Nance and Faldo had lost their puppy dog as Tiger struggled and Speith didnt fold. Rory shot a 66 but no one would know that until 18 because CBS didnt show a single shot of Rory's on the back nine, yet every single Tiger shot made it into the show while shooting a 73.

18 under is 18 under...IDGAF if it was 1997 or 2015.

That would be an awesome post if there was a grain of truth to any of it.

CBS showed almost every one of Rory's shots on the back nine. They showed his drive and approach on 10, 11 as well as his birdie putt, his tee ball into 12, both shots into 13 and both putts, all four shots on 15, all three shots on 16, and every shot on 18.

You are completely ****ing wrong. Galactically wrong, in fact.

On top of that, the average driving distance in 1997 was 265 yards. Augusta played 6925 in that tournament. In 2015, that distance would rate you 204th on tour, and the average driving distance is 287.5 yards.

So, from 1997-2015, Augusta was lengthened by 510 yards or 7.36%. Meanwhile, the average driving distance increased 7.82%. So, Augusta plays at effectively the same length as it did in 1997. The lengthening has done nothing to impact how it plays for the average tour pro.

Moreover, Spieth finished -18. Mickelson and Rose finished -14, which would have won every Masters but six. No one finished within twelve of Woods.

-18 is not -18 no more than three runs off of Aaron Crow are three runs off of Greg Holland.

Terrible ****ing post. Terrible.

[philfree]

Hitting the 230 balls and 100 drivers didn't seem to hurt me to bad but the next time I played I drew a bad cart. S.O.B. had a sticking clutch and you'd push the gas and the cart wouldn't go and the clutch would kick out all at once causing the cart to jerk forward really hard. It caught me off guard and snapped my lower back. Just snapped it. I spent four months doing exercises just to protect my lower back and hips and now it's all shot to hell. That course has old carts with shitty suspensions, rough cart paths and bumpy fairways. I guess I shouldn't expect much more for $40.00 a month.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

...CBS showed almost every one of Rory's shots on the back nine. They showed his drive and approach on 10, 11 as well as his birdie putt, his tee ball into 12, both shots into 13 and both putts, all four shots on 15, all three shots on 16, and every shot on 18...

Allowing for hyperbole, you will realize the difference between the above and the showing of...EVERY SINGLE SHOT of Tiger. Tiger in the trees, off the green, EVERY. SINGLE. SHOT, yet, we got a summary of Rory's back nine. I appreciate the fact that he got some coverage, but while watching Sunday's round, I hardly heard Rory's name and had no idea he had shot a 66 until 18.

Now, I may not be the best TV watcher like Mr. Hamas Jenkins, who probably had to rewind his DVR to get the above, but no one said much about Rory until 18 and then it was divulged to the viewing audience that he shot a 66.

I'm not going to bog down on the comparison of generations or ages, suffice it so say, I could drop my pants too, and say that Tiger's 270 in 1997 should have been a 235 compared to Nicklaus' win in 1986, but that would be completely silly and ridiculous. Much like your post.

Spieth and Tiger played different courses with different equipment and matched the same low score. I think that means nothing more than they tied. The fact that Tiger did it with a 12 stroke lead means absolutely nothing other than the fact he had zero competition.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

Allowing for hyperbole, you will realize the difference between the above and the showing of...EVERY SINGLE SHOT of Tiger. Tiger in the trees, off the green, EVERY. SINGLE. SHOT, yet, we got a summary of Rory's back nine. I appreciate the fact that he got some coverage, but while watching Sunday's round, I hardly heard Rory's name and had no idea he had shot a 66 until 18.

Now, I may not be the best TV watcher like Mr. Hamas Jenkins, who probably had to rewind his DVR to get the above, but no one said much about Rory until 18 and then it was divulged to the viewing audience that he shot a 66.

I'm not going to bog down on the comparison of generations or ages, suffice it so say, I could drop my pants too, and say that Tiger's 270 in 1997 should have been a 235 compared to Nicklaus' win in 1986, but that would be completely silly and ridiculous. Much like your post.

Spieth and Tiger played different courses with different equipment and matched the same low score. I think that means nothing more than they tied. The fact that Tiger did it with a 12 stroke lead means absolutely nothing other than the fact he had zero competition.

Spoken like a true dumbass. FWIW, I didn't rewind the DVR, I just don't talk out of my ass and make up bullshit about something that happened on live TV the day before.

Here's a further statistical ass-whipping for you:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/j...-of-the-field/

In 2015, the field averaged a 72-hole score of 285.6, 2.4 strokes better than par — the third-lowest average in tournament history — meaning the typical player in this year’s Masters took 5.4 fewer strokes than in Woods’s record-setting year. In turn, Spieth’s 270 was only 15.6 strokes better than the field average, a mark that ranks just 42nd among 72-hole scores since 1934.

In fairness to Spieth, 37 of the 41 players ahead of him on that list put up their scores before the Masters started cutting the field down after 36 holes in 1957. Before that, scores such as Charles Kunkle’s 340 in 1956 polluted the overall field averages, making top-of-the-leaderboard performances look far better by comparison. But even if we limit our sample of tournaments to 1957 and later, Spieth’s -15.6 mark relative to the field ranks fifth-best, trailing not only Woods’s in 1997, but also Masters wins by Raymond Floyd, Jack Nicklaus and Phil Mickelson:

The rest of the field was so good this year that a record four players shot 11-under-par or better, and 58 percent of all players who made the cut broke par. Even without including Spieth’s 270, the rest of the field averaged a score of 285.9, the third-lowest 72-hole average for non-winners since 1957:

This doesn’t take much shine off Spieth’s week at Augusta, of course. He’s only 21, the same age as Woods in 1997; Nicklaus was 25, Floyd was 33 and Mickelson was 39 when they posted superior performances relative to opponents playing the same course under the same conditions. But as long as par isn’t what the typical player shoots, the field average should always be taken into account when comparing scores across tournaments and eras — and in Spieth’s case, that slightly lowers the historical significance of his 2015 performance.

[philfree]

I'm heading down in the morning to see the Legends Of Golf in Branson. We swapped out some work for a couple gold passes for the tourney. I wanted a couples of greens fees at Top Of The Rock but they didn't like that idea. I still feel blessed.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I went to the range yesterday and was really hitting the ball crappy for a while until I got things figured out.

Point being, I've played for years with a fear of an overly open clubface, due to issues with el hosel (which ends up being ironic). Recently, I just decided to say "**** it, I know why this happens" and I've weakened my grip, left my left forearm rotate freely in the swing, and release like hell at the ball.

My divot patters are so much better, I get on to my front foot better and spin out less, and I don't have to feel like my arms are in casts like I often feel like with a modern "body only" swing.

[O.city]

You're gonna have to hit alot of balls to have timing with that Is the only thing I could think of problem wise.

I'm more from the school of thought that the s word comes more from lateral movement towards the ball via the spine angle, unless your plane us completely just ****ed

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by O.city

You're gonna have to hit alot of balls to have timing with that Is the only thing I could think of problem wise.

I'm more from the school of thought that the s word comes more from lateral movement towards the ball via the spine angle, unless your plane us completely just ****ed

To me it feels far more normal than other swings. Take it back wide, let your arms lift and rotate, then shift and release. I'm also, much, much better at controlling distance with my wedges.

Basically, it's a two-plane swing. Because **** the one-plane swing.

[GloryDayz]

Made the 7:15 start this AM, got very wet on the front nine, but it was AWESOME having fairways that would assist me in looking more Pro'ish as taking beaver pelts were all the simpler.

The back nine were not rainy, but the back had stiffened a LOT, and it showed...

[O.city]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

To me it feels far more normal than other swings. Take it back wide, let your arms lift and rotate, then shift and release. I'm also, much, much better at controlling distance with my wedges.

Basically, it's a two-plane swing. Because **** the one-plane swing.

I think the one plane swing thought is a fallacy. Maybe with a driver but mid irons down, no way.

As long as you keep it between the shaft plane and shoulder plane as you come into the ball, your good.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by philfree

I'm heading down in the morning to see the Legends Of Golf in Branson. We swapped out some work for a couple gold passes for the tourney. I wanted a couples of greens fees at Top Of The Rock but they didn't like that idea. I still feel blessed.

Watched my old hero's up close and personal yesterday. It was really awesome watching Ben Crenshaw, Jack Nicklaus and Tom Watson hit balls on the range together. Then I watched Gary Player, Jack and Lee Trevino's group and that was way cool along with watching Tom, Jerry Pate, Andy North and Ben Crenshaw's group. Do I lose my man card if I admit to getting a little misty watching those guys. The way Buffalo Ridge is laid out it's not very spectator friendly but that allows you to be close enough to reach out and touch these guys as they go buy in their golf carts. It was a great day for this old guy.

[Dartgod]

Saw this on Facebook.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Saw this on Facebook.

That's ****ing awesome....

And it's really funny because I've been that guy more than once!