Fivehead Manning: least clutch QB in NFL history?

[GoChargers]

1997 regular season – Manning is dominant in his final season for the Tennessee Volunteers, passing for 36 TD, 11 INT while leading the team to 32.9 PPG in the tough SEC. The best QB in college football finishes No. 2 in the Heisman voting, behind triple-theat performer Charles Woodson.

1997 postseason – Manning produces just a single TD through three quarters and is benched in the fourth quarter as the talent-laden No. 3 Volunteers get smoked by Nebraska, 42-17. Manning completes 21 of 31 for 131 yards, a dismal 4.2 YPA. He is benched in the fourth quarter for Tee Martin, who leads a scoring drive and then leads stacked Tennessee to the national title the following season.

1999 regular season – The Colts roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind second-year phenom Manning. They score 26.4 PPG, third in the NFL.

1999 postseason – Manning completes just 45.2% of his passes with 5.4 YPA and a 62.3 rating as the Colts lose to the Titans, 19-16, playing at home in the Indy dome no less. One and done in the playoffs.

2000 regular season – Manning is brilliant (33 TD, 15 INT, 94.7 rating), while leading the Colts to 26.8 PPG (fourth) and a 10-6 record.

2000 postseason – Manning again struggles to get the ball downfield, completing just 53.1% of his passes for 194 yards, 6.1 YPA and an ordinary 82.0 rating. The Colts lose in Miami, 23-17. One and done in the playoffs.

2002 regular season – The Colts are merely ordinary on offense but go 10-6 and earn a wildcard spot behind one of the league's better defenses: 19.6 PPG (7th). They earn a cushy draw against the 9-7 AFC East champion Jets.

2002 postseason – Manning and the Colts come up lame in one of the most dismal offensive performances in modern playoff history. He completes 45.2% of his passes for 137 yards, 4.4 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT and a 31.2 rating. The Colts are embarrassed by the 9-7 Jets, 41-0. One and done in the playoffs.

2003 regular season – The Colts explode for 27.9 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record and the AFC South crown. Manning wins his first NFL MVP award, sharing the honor with Steve McNair.

2003 postseason – MVP Manning finally enjoys his first postseason success leading the Colts to the AFC title game with a pair of brilliant playoff performances against the Broncos and Chiefs. Then his statistical chariot turned into a pumpkin, with four picks and a 35.5 rating in an ugly 24-14 loss at New England.

2004 regular season – MVP Manning sets the football world abuzz, throwing a record 49 TD passes while leading the Colts to 522 points and a 12-4 record. Manning wins his second consecutive league MVP award.

2004 postseason – Manning is brilliant against the Broncos in the wildcard round, as he was the year before. Then the NFL MVP shits the bed against the Patriots, with just 5.7 YPA, 0 TD, 1 INT and a 69.3 rating in a 20-3 loss. Compared to regular-season production, it is arguably the worst offensive performance in the history of the NFL postseason – at least to that point.

2005 regular season – The mighty Colts are teed up on both sides of the ball to win the Super Bowl: No. 2 in scoring offense (27.4 PPG); No. 2 in scoring defense (15.4), on their way to a brilliant 14-2 record and No. 1 seed in the AFC. It sets up a week rest and a home game against the 11-5 Steelers. By now you know how this story ends.

2005 postseason – Manning didn't exactly shit the bed. But after another brilliant regular season, the offense struggles with its worst performance of the year, producing just 3 points through three quarters. The Colts lose at home to the Steelers, 21-18. One and done in the playoffs.

2006 regular season – The Colts score 26.7 PPG (2nd) on their way to a 12-4 record.

2006 postseason – Proving that even a blind squirrel can find a nut, Manning throws 3 TDs and 7 INTs in four postseason games, but bumbles his way to his only Super Bowl victory behind Indy's brilliant defensive play (16.3 PPG in postseason). He posts the lowest playoff passer rating of any Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

2007 regular season – The defending champs roll through the season with a 13-3 record behind a prolific offense (28.1 PPG; 3rd) and the league's best defense (16.4 PPG; 1st).

2007 postseason – Manning passes for 402 yards and 3 TDs against the visiting Chargers. But the game turns on two costly INTs in San Diego territory at the end of the first half and at the start of the second half. His third-quarter pass was picked off at the San Diego 3, costing the team critical points in a 28-24 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2008 regular season – The Colts go 12-4, led by a defense that's No. 7 in the NFL in scoring (18.6 PPG). They go on the road in the wildcard round, but get another gimme draw against the 8-8 AFC West champion Chargers. With foil Tom Brady out all year with an injury, the path is paved for Manning and the Colts to win their second Super Bowl.

2008 postseason – Manning doesn't shit the bed. But he hardly looks like the NFL's Most Valuable Player against the average San Diego defense. The Colts struggle to find a groove in a 23-17 loss. One and done in the playoffs.

2009 regular season – The balanced Colts go 14-2 behind a strong offense (7th in scoring) and defense (8th), and another MVP performance by Manning (33 TD, 16 INT, 99.9 rating).

2009 postseason – Manning advances to the Super Bowl for the second time in his career. The MVP has a chance to tie the game and cement his legend in the fourth quarter. Instead, his pass his picked off by Tracy Porter, who returns it 74 yards for the game-clinching score. Colts lose to the Saints, 31-17, as Manning is outplayed by Drew Brees.

2010 regular season – The Colts struggle through a 10-6 season, but it's still enough to win the AFC South. Manning throws 33 TD passes and again leads one of the best offenses in football (27.2 PPG).

2010 postseason – Manning plays well, passing for 225 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT and a 108.7 rating on 26 attempts. But his team, as usual, suddenly struggles to score points in a critical game. The Colts lose at home to the Jets, 17-16. One and done in the playoffs.

2012 regular season – Manning's first year in Denver is a great success. The Broncos are stacked on both sides of the ball (No. 2 scoring offense; No. 4 scoring defense), go 13-3 and earn the AFC's No. 1 seed.

2012 postseason – Manning threw a pick-six and an ugly Favre-esque across-his-body overtime INT to seal Denver's fate in a 38-35 loss to the Ravens. The Broncos fail to win a game in which they produced two special teams touchdowns. One and done in the playoffs.

2013 regular season – The Broncos dominate the NFL behind Manning's fifth MVP performance. He throws a record 55 TD passes while leading the first 600-point team in NFL history (606).

2013 postseason – Manning takes shitting the bed to new levels in Super Bowl XLVIII. Hell, he shit all over the floor and the walls, too. Wide-eyed Manning muffs the first snap of the game, handing the Seahawks a gift 2-0 lead. He's picked off in Seattle territory later in the first quarter, and throws a pick-six at the end of the first half.

The greatest offense in NFL history is shutout for nearly three quarters, behind Manning's worst game of the season (5.7 YPA, 73.5 rating). The Denver offense, after scoring 37.9 PPG in the regular season, is humiliated in a 43-8 loss. It is easily the worst postseason offensive performance relative to regular season success in the Super Bowl Era, replacing Manning's 2004 Colts for that dishonor.

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[Hootie]

any more excuses for Tom Brady?

He was favored to win both of the Super Bowls he lost, he has always had plenty of talent around him, and Alex Smith was actually abysmal against the Giants in that NFCCG.

but at least you watch the games, I think?

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Their outside stats are essentially identical, and Brady's played a larger percentage of games in bad weather outdoor stadiums.

you know

they only play like 4 games a year when it's cold

you do realize that, right?

[Hootie]

how many pro bowls did Julius Thomas, Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, Emmanuel Sanders, Knowshon Moreno, and CJ Anderson go to before Manning played on Denver?

do you guys think that, you know, maybe, just maybe, the guy throwing the ball tends to make everyone around him just a litttttttle bit better?

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

any more excuses for Tom Brady?

He was favored to win both of the Super Bowls he lost, he has always had plenty of talent around him, and Alex Smith was actually abysmal against the Giants in that NFCCG.

but at least you watch the games, I think?

oh know 1 for 13 on third down! yeah, just confirms you didn't watch the game considering all the factors involved.


His team was favored yes. Brady did his part in every superbowl. There's more to the QB position than throwing 5 tds and 500 yards.


hahah plenty of talent. He's always had one decent WR sans the randy moss experiment, used to have a healthy reliable RB and what again? What are the WRs on his superbowl team again and where are they today?

[Hootie]

Brady did his part in the Super Bowl they were favored by 13.5 by scoring 14 points after openly mocking Plaxico for suggesting the Patriots would only score 17?

He did his part?

Go on record. He did his part that game, right?

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

how many pro bowls did Julius Thomas, Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, Emmanuel Sanders, Knowshon Moreno, and CJ Anderson go to before Manning played on Denver?

do you guys think that, you know, maybe, just maybe, the guy throwing the ball tends to make everyone around him just a litttttttle bit better?

oh now manning has had par talent at weapons as brady?

[Hootie]

This is what you call a choke:

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Brady did his part in the Super Bowl they were favored by 13.5 by scoring 14 points after openly mocking Plaxico for suggesting the Patriots would only score 17?

He did his part?

Go on record. He did his part that game, right?

Oh, athletes talking ish pregame, have you ever played sports?

Was it Brady that had a pick six to seal a game or was it Manning? I can't seem to forget.. and where is that Db that make that play?

Oh... since we are pinning QBs as the sole factor to success of teams pass/fail.

Manning beat Rex GROSSMAN.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by RobBlake

oh now manning has had par talent at weapons as brady?

Absolutely. Manning has never had more around him than Brady. Each QB has elevated the talent around them as much as you'd expect all-time great QB's to do.

The Manning offense (being no huddle) is going to put up more numbers than the Pats offense.

I don't think Manning is better than Brady because he has better stats, I think he's better than Brady because he's more talented. He also runs his own offense and calls his own plays (for the majority of his career). He is a more valuable player to a team than Tom Brady. We saw this when Brady got injured and the Pats still won 11 games with Matt Cassel.

Peyton Manning IS the system.

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

This is what you call a choke:

Proper example of choking:

[Hootie]

The 18-1 game was a Brady choke. Spin it how you want. He mocked Plaxico, scored less than Plaxico predicted, played a shitty game, and his team went from a 13.5 favorite to go 19-0 to losing, and only scoring 14 points. That's on Tom Brady. It was a choke.

As for his 1st Super Bowl ... he threw 1 TD pass the entire postseason, and didn't even play the AFCCG. If you think Tom Brady was the most important player on that team you are a ****ing idiot. The Pats beat Kurt Warner that game.

After that?

Jake Delhomme and Donovan McNabb. And neither of those teams had an elite defense and special teams like the Bears.

As easy as it is for your dumbass to tear down all of Manning's accomplishments it's as easy for me to do the same to Brady.

As soon as you guys figure out that for every excuse you have for Brady I can match it with one for Manning, these threads will die.

I mean, do you realize how hypocritical these excuses for Tom Brady are?

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

This is what you call a choke:

So is this:



...followed by 43-8.

[Hootie]

I prefer these chokes:

[Hootie]

anyone who watched the Denver / Seattle super bowl and concluded Peyton Manning choked rather than Denver just got anhilated in every facet of the game is a ****ing moron

[Hootie]

you know, especially since they were two weeks removed from beating the Patriots, the vaunted Tom Brady, by 10 points in the AFCCG

...

so uh, yeah