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2015 NFL Mock Draft 4.0: Redskins go receiver in first round
By Will Brinson | NFL Writer
April 11, 2015 1:00 pm ET

We often build mock drafts and fail to see the forest for the trees. NFL teams do the same thing, so it's not a crime to focus on the now. The Buccaneers are a good example: They have almost no choice but to take a quarterback No. 1 overall because of its roster construction. Another example: The Washington Redskins at wide receiver.

The Skins have DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon, so why would they draft a wideout? But as friend of the site and CBS colleague at 106.7 the Fan Chad Dukes pointed out when I spoke with him on the radio Friday, Redskins fans shouldn't ignore the idea of the team drafting a wide receiver despite obvious defensive deficiencies on the roster.

Remember, Scot McCloughan is a best-player-available-type of guy. And Garcon/Jackson aren't locks for the long haul on this roster. Jackson's contract runs through 2017 but he'll be 29 after 2015 ends and facing the likelihood of his biggest weapon, speed, moving in a declining direction. He has a $9.25 million cap hit in 2017 but cutting him after 2016 would result in just $1.25 million in dead money. He's probably on the roster through 2016.

Garcon probably has only one year left with the Redskins. He's got a $10.2 million cap hit in 2016 (and $9.7 million in 2015) but would result in only $2.2 million in dead money (both players' contract numbers via Spotrac.com) if cut before 2016.

Adding someone like Amari Cooper or Kevin White at the top of the draft seems like a luxury for a team with two expensive wideouts and so many other roster problems, but may well be a necessity with McCloughan looking toward the future.

We're gonna reflect that happening below and see if it changes anything.

1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Florida State QB Jameis Winston: Love hearing all the chatter about Jameis' character concerns and on-field issues now. Where was this stuff in the other two months before the draft? Barring Winston doing something stupid or someone high in the Bucs front office stepping in to quash this choice, it's going to be Winston first overall.

2. Tennessee Titans -- Oregon QB Marcus Mariota: The only thing better than landing a sure-fire franchise quarterback for a two-win team? Landing a guy who qualifies as a franchise guy to buy yourself three more years. The fit doesn't seem logical with Ken Whisenhunt but people are starting to figure out Mariota can do plenty of the things required of a starting NFL quarterback.

3. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Clemson OLB Vic Beasley, OLB: We're getting wild in the first round! The Jaguars need a LEO for Gus Bradley's defense and no one in this draft has the ability to make the immediate pass-rushing impact like Beasley. Three feels high but he's not lasting until the second round.

4. Oakland Raiders -- USC DT Leonard Williams: Gifted Williams at 3, the Raiders pounce on the local (soon to be MORE local??) defensive tackle.

5. Washington Redskins -- Alabama WR Amari Cooper: Let's get nuts. The idea of the Redskins grabbing a wideout with Jackson and Garcon already on the depth chart sounds crazy, but this is a best-available-player situation for McCloughan and he's got his pick of wideouts here. Look at his draft run in San Francisco: the 49ers took offensive players in the first round during 4/7 first-round picks from 2005 through 2009. If you're thinking about life post-Garcon, Cooper probably matches up best with Jackson, though there's no guarantee he'll be there forever either.

6. New York Jets -- Florida OLB Dante Fowler Jr.: The Jets' strong offseason continues without actually having to be aggressive. One of the top pass-rushing targets falls into their lap at No. 6. Todd Bowles loves to blitz and Fowler gives him a versatile weapon to send after the quarterback from different spots.

7. Chicago Bears -- West Virginia WR Kevin White: With Brandon Marshall gone (and flip No. 6 and No. 7 if he wasn't) the Bears look to the draft for another weapon for Jay Cutler. Pairing White with Alshon Jeffery gives Chicago a terrifying tandem at wide receiver.

8. Atlanta Falcons -- Nebraska DE Randy Gregory: Concern over Gregory's failed test at the combine will vanish when the clock starts ticking and everyone's looking for the best talent. This especially matters in Atlanta, where the Falcons badly need a pass rusher and may not be as concerned about character as they were a few years ago.

9. New York Giants -- Washington DT Danny Shelton: When we re-drafted the 2011 NFL Draft, we imagined plugging Jurrell Casey in with the Giants pass rush. Giving defensive ends space-eating, quarterback-attacking defensive tackles does wonders for their production. So the Giants do just that at No. 9, grabbing the mammoth Shelton.

10. St. Louis Rams -- Iowa OL Brandon Scherff: For only the second time, Jeff Fisher grabs an offensive lineman in the first round. Wouldn't be surprising to see them go with a cornerback here, or even a wideout, but they need help protecting Nick Foles.

11. Minnesota Vikings -- Louisville WR DeVante Parker: Go get Teddy Bridgewater's guy so Bridgewater can throw to him. Mike Wallace isn't the answer at wide receiver, even though the trade at least gives Minnesota an additional weapon.

12. Cleveland Browns -- LSU OT La'el Collins: When Alex Mack went down last season, the running game fell apart. They need a mauling big body who can play on the right side or inside. Collins isn't going to take Joe Thomas' job, but fits this line's needs perfectly.

13. New Orleans Saints -- Michigan State CB Trae Waynes: Keep pumping that money into the secondary. The Saints want to come out of this draft with a lineman and a defensive player and nab the best corner on the board here.

14. Miami Dolphins -- UCF WR Breshard Perriman: Moves to dump Wallace and pick up Kenny Stills were smart and ultimately should prove effective, but this is WR corps still needs immediate help. The upside of Perriman, particularly utilizing the local product in Bill Lazor's offense on short throws (where he won't drop as many balls???) is spicy indeed.

15. San Francisco 49ers-- Oregon DT Arik Armstead: The 49ers need an upside-filled defensive lineman who can step in and fill Justin Smith's shoes when he inevitably retires and leaves another gaping hole on this defense.

16. Houston Texans -- Missouri OLB/DE Shane Ray: Double. Down. The Texans already have J.J. Watt, Jadeveon Clowney and Whitney Mercilus. Bring in Ray and keep throwing pass rushers at opposing offenses. Force them to max out double teams for Watt and let him create havoc. There's also no telling if Clowney will be an impact pass rusher next season.

17. San Diego Chargers -- Wisconsin RB Melvin Gordon: Flipping the script and sending Gordon, instead of Gurley, to San Diego. Gordon's health makes him potentially more impactful out of the gate, someone who can help the Bolts off to a hot start.

18. Kansas City Chiefs -- Arizona State WR Jaelen Strong: Grabbing Jeremy Maclin in free agency is huge but Andy Reid is in need of another weapon for Alex Smith.

19. Cleveland Browns (via Buffalo Bills) -- Kentucky DE Bud Dupree: Love the idea of Cleveland nabbing this athletic freak and plugging him into Mike Pettine's defense. They're pretty well-rounded in terms of having a strong defensive unit, but giving him another speedy edge rusher along with Barkevious Mingo could make things interesting.

20. Philadelphia Eagles -- Wake Forest CB Kevin Johnson: Lot of free-agent money invested into the defense but there's no guarantee Chip Kelly fixed the secondary. Wouldn't be surprised if he kept doubling down on cornerback and attempted to grab a wideout in the next round.

21. Cincinnati Bengals -- Stanford OT Andrus Peat: Smart teams prepare for the future and the Bengals are -- gasp! -- a smart team in the draft these days. They're able to secure a value talent with Peat here while also managing to set themselves up for life after Andrew Whitworth should they let him walk after his contract year and at the age of 34.

22. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Connecticut CB Byron Jones: The freakish combine monster gives the Steelers an athletic presence in a secondary desperately needing help. Keith Butler sees the way offenses are changing defensive alignments and understands more cornerbacks is critical.

23. Detroit Lions -- Miami (FL) OT Ereck Flowers: Plugging in Flowers on the right side of this line would give Matthew Stafford more protection as well as help the Lions in the run game, with Flowers nasty style showcasing an ability to get to the second level quickly.

24. Arizona Cardinals -- Georgia RB Todd Gurley: The Cardinals want to get more physical and dynamic in the run game and Gurley, when healthy, is capable of changing a ground attack. They've increased the talent on the offensive line and can afford to gamble on Gurley coming back to superstar form after knee injury last November.

25. Carolina Panthers -- Pittsburgh OT T.J. Clemmings: Dave Gettleman needs to get help for Cam Newton (no offense to Michael Oher and Jonathan Martin). The athletic upside of Clemmings and the veteran presence of those guys gives Carolina time to work the Pitt tackle into the mix as a franchise cornerstone.

26. Baltimore Ravens -- Florida State DT Eddie Goldman: With the trade of Haloti Ngata, the Ravens need more depth on the defensive line. Goldman could pair with another former Florida State standout, Timmy Jernigan, to form the future of this defensive line.

27. Dallas Cowboys -- Texas DT Malcom Brown: Local product who fills a need. Tempted to have them go running back here, but somehow they've become self-aware when it comes to the draft too and decide to wait for the second round. Plugging Brown into the middle only improves the pass rush.

28. Denver Broncos -- Florida OT D.J. Humphries: More protection for Peyton Manning and sets up the franchise for life after Peyton. Athletic linemen play well in Gary Kubiak's scheme and while Humphries is raw, he's highly athletic.

29. Indianapolis Colts -- Oklahoma DT Jordan Phillips: Chuck Pagano made it clear how important stopping the run is in 2015 after the Colts were unable to overcome the Patriots, thanks to coughing up yards in the physical ground game. Tons of potential and the ability to dominant in the middle early.

30. Green Bay Packers -- Virginia LB Eli Harold: Green Bay needs depth in the secondary but let's not forget how old Julius Peppers is. Harold would provide a boost in the pass rush and let Dom Capers continue to be creative with his use of Clay Matthews on the inside and outside.

31. New Orleans Saints (via Seattle Seahawks) -- Florida State OL Cameron Erving: The Saints want to get stronger in their running game. Erving isn't a mauling beast, but he's talented in the run game, has the versatility to boost the offense and provides insurance in case Max Unger gets injured again.

32. New England Patriots -- Utah CB Eric Rowe: With the losses of Brandon Browner and Darrelle Revis in free agency, Bill Belichick can take a stab at another cornerback.

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Old 04-13-2015, 09:51 AM   #76
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He's Bowe 2.0. In the right system, he will be very good. But not Reid's system.
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Old 04-13-2015, 10:15 AM   #77
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If 2 WRs go say..... every ten picks seems a reasonable rate.... for the first and 2nd rds.

We are looking at WRs graded 8 through 12 on your boards to select from, since we picked up Maclin, do you all think the Chiefs still wait until the 2nd rd to draft a WR, or wait even until the 3rd.
Be interesting to see what they do after bypassing last years talented group.
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Old 04-13-2015, 10:27 AM   #78
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Dude, eat shit. Do you have to be such an asshole, because someone has a differing opinion? Your opinion isn't the gospel. **** your Momma, you ****ing hole.


You should know by now that this is how I treat most people on this forum. It's nothing personal against you, dude.

Hell, look how I treat Direckshun. He's a top 5 poster on this board, and in terms of producing the kinds of football discussions I like to get into, he's probably my favorite poster.

When I tell him to get AIDS from a 400-lb man's dried smegma, I don't actually think he should do it.

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What would Chiefs fans think about drafting Todd Gurley in the 1st round?
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what receiver has alex smith ever played with, either at s.f. or k.c. that you would say is adept at going up and getting a jump ball..maybe there has been one but none come to mind
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Why throw him the ball when Reid's offense doesn't permit down field passing.

Crucifying Smith for executing Reid's offense is priceless.

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1. Reid's WC offense is based on a quick passing game and receivers YAC.

2. our oline play was terrible in 2014. It wouldnt have been prudent to have Smith hold onto the ball for a downfield play to develop. Alex would be exposed to even more hits/sacks.

3. Chiefs admitted when signing Maclin that they really didnt have a downfield threat in 2014 except for Wilson late in the season. They lost all confidence in Avery.

With an improved oline and receivers, I expect to see the chiefs to take more downfield shots this season. Only thing holding them back would be if the new starting center is terrible.

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it would be tough to pass on an adrian peterson type talent......which is exactly what I think Gurley is.
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Contrary to Sir SNR, I wouldn't mind it at all. I'm knot a Knile Davis fan (fumbles too much, not a good enough receiver out of the backfield, not a skilled blocker, etc) so another top flight RB certainly wouldn't hurt. Would also probably prolong both Charles' and Gurley's careers. Not who I'd select, but I wouldn't be flying banners over it.
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Contrary to Sir SNR, I wouldn't mind it at all. I'm knot a Knile Davis fan (fumbles too much, not a good enough receiver out of the backfield, not a skilled blocker, etc) so another top flight RB certainly wouldn't hurt. Would also probably prolong both Charles' and Gurley's careers. Not who I'd select, but I wouldn't be flying banners over it.
This is an insanely deep draft for RBs. If we're going to draft a 1st round RB, we can do a lot better than a dude like Gurley coming off a season-ending injury.
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I'd be OK with it....talent-wise he would probably be sitting at #1 on KC's board. If Charles were to get injured...the Chiefs season would tank.

I dont think they take him though...and I dont think they draft a WR at #18. I wouldn't be surprised if KC went defense in the first 3 rounds maybe a WR with one of the two 3rds..
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This is an insanely deep draft for RBs. If we're going to draft a 1st round RB, we can do a lot better than a dude like Gurley coming off a season-ending injury.
If gurley wasnt injured he would be a top 5 talent. Chiefs would be in no position to draft him.
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Drafting a RB wouldn't mean that Knile Davis would be cut. He would just be bumped down to 3rd string.
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If Charles were to get injured...the Chiefs season would tank.
I dont think that is the case anymore. The team has a lot more weapons now.

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I'd be OK with it....talent-wise he would probably be sitting at #1 on KC's board. If Charles were to get injured...the Chiefs season would tank.

I dont think they take him though...and I dont think they draft a WR at #18. I wouldn't be surprised if KC went defense in the first 3 rounds maybe a WR with one of the two 3rds..
We've been just fine with Knile Davis filling in for Charles. I think this is a load of bullshit.

Charles is still getting paid because he's still that much better than Davis. That's not to say that Davis is a piece of shit who is a liability to the team.

Ask teams like Cleveland, Cincinnati, Miami, or St. Louis if Knile Davis is a shitty RB who would tank their teams if he were their starting RB.
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I'd rather take Clemmings or Peat than reach on a WR like Strong. That's how much I hate that pick.

If the board fell that way in picks 1-17, I'd want Kevin Johnson or Alvin Dupree from what that guy posts as his available players. My #1 player that I'd want (Marcus Peters) isn't even on this guy's radar in the first round, furthering the fact that this writer is a clueless dumb****.
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There's probably nothing I care about less than the NFL draft, except for the MLB draft. I have no clue why so many people care. History has shown, nobody really knows anything. All teams have the same playing field, you just need to get lucky, bottom line.

Chiefs could just run down the list of Mel Kiper Jrs board instead of hiring a GM, would yield virtually the same results.
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