Russell Wilson - Page 6

melbar · 04-11-2012, 08:52 PM

Watched QB camp with Gruden and was very impressed. Would love to get him in the 3rd. I think he has potential to be special. Height is the ONLY reason he isnt top 10. Anyone else see him much?

CBSsports

Analysis
Accuracy: Was the nation's most efficient quarterback in 2011, earning a 191.78 QB rating -- over 22 points higher than the next highest rated QB from a pro-style offense (Andrew Luck) … Showcased the ability to consistently throw receivers open versus single coverage as a senior, demonstrating impressive improvement in this area from his time at NC State … Delivers a tight spiral that is easily tracked and caught. Typically hits his receivers in stride whether on zipped crossing routes, touch passes dropped over the top of defenders or line drives leading receivers out of bounds on the deep out.

Arm Strength: Arguably Wilson's most impressive trait, especially considering his lack of ideal size. Can easily make every NFL throw, showing the ability to drive the football to the sideline on a line from the opposite hash. Can send the ball 40-50 yards downfield with a flick of his wrist.

Setup/Release: Efficient set-up and delivery of the ball. Experienced taking snaps from under center and shotgun. Drops back quickly and shows good rhythm and timing despite limited experience playing with Wisconsin's receivers, planting his back foot and driving the quick slant. Has a quick, over the top release and does an excellent job of finding clear passing lanes from which to throw.

Reading Defenses: Cerebral quarterback who is rarely fooled by coverage. Makes strong pre-snap reads and demonstrated improvement as a senior in manipulating the defense with his eyes and legs. Shows good poise in a muddy pocket, stepping up to avoid the rush and challenging linebackers to either commit to stopping him from scrambling or dropping off to cover receivers behind them. Is more than willing to scramble but does a nice job of keeping his eyes downfield until the last possible second.

On The Move: Very good elusiveness and speed for the position but his most impressive trait may be his vision. Anticipates pressure well and does a nice job of forcing the defense to commit and taking advantage of the weakness exposed once they do. Very good mobility for bootlegs and roll outs, showing good accuracy and arm strength to fire passes downfield.

Intangibles: Voted a team captain at NC State and Wisconsin … Attempted 379 passes between interceptions -- the longest streak in NCAA history -- over a two year span of 13 games in 2009-10. Finished his collegiate career 30-20, including 11-3 as a senior … Wilson was drafted in the fourth round of the 2009 MLB draft by the Colorado Rockies. The second baseman hit .229 with five home runs and 26 RBIs in the Northwest and South Atlantic leagues. Wilson notified the Rockies in January 2012 that he will pursue playing in the NFL over baseball … Good bloodlines. His father, the late Harrison Wilson III, played football and baseball at Dartmouth and spent time on the San Diego Chargers' practice squad …

Urc Burry · 04-16-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Maybe I'm crazy, but "cant read defenses", "never ran a pro-offense" and "cant throw the ball 20 yards" are bigger issues.

I am not for taking a QB just to take one. We already have a project in Stanzi.

Wisconsin did a good job of covering Wilson's flaws up. Was used primarily on play action roll outs and a lot of 7 step drops. He had all day to throw quite often. That's not going to fly in the NFL.

Nightfyre · 04-16-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

I am not for taking a QB just to take one. We already have a project in Stanzi.

Wisconsin did a good job of covering Wilson's flaws up. Was used primarily on play action roll outs and a lot of 7 step drops. He had all day to throw quite often. That's not going to fly in the NFL.

Wilson would not be a project. He would be a mid-to-late-round flyer you could plug in after the bye and see what he can do.

Urc Burry · 04-16-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Wilson would not be a project. He would be a mid-to-late-round flyer you could plug in after the bye and see what he can do.

He wouldn't even be the 3rd best QB on our roster by midseason

Nightfyre · 04-16-2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

He wouldn't even be the 3rd best QB on our roster by midseason

That's a bold claim considering his competition.

Dmello12 · 04-16-2012, 10:43 PM

i liked the interview but i honestly think stanzi will be a better pro than any qb that wont be picked with the first or second pick. i could be wrong but i'd rather have stanzi under center than any of these guys.

melbar · 04-17-2012, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

I am not for taking a QB just to take one. We already have a project in Stanzi.

Wisconsin did a good job of covering Wilson's flaws up. Was used primarily on play action roll outs and a lot of 7 step drops. He had all day to throw quite often. That's not going to fly in the NFL.

HOw bout his 78 TD's at NC?

melbar · 04-17-2012, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

There's no better interview on Gruden's QB camp this year than Cousins.

Not saying I want him in Red & Gold, but facts are facts.

Just watched Cousins QB camp. Anyone who has watched both and thinks Cousins is even in the same league is smokin crack. Half the conversation was on why he made mistakes. Got to the field and right away went to a corner throw he couldnt make during the season and he immediately missed again this time with nobody rushing.

Actually watch Russels QB camp and say that with a strait face.

O.city · 04-17-2012, 11:52 AM

Just caught Wilsons qb camp and watched him on ESPN.

I'm starting to change my mind on the guy. He is short, really short. He's gonna have to work his ass off to become something though.

brorth · 04-17-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Just caught Wilsons qb camp and watched him on ESPN.

I'm starting to change my mind on the guy. He is short, really short. He's gonna have to work his ass off to become something though.

He is short, no doubt. He seems to have everything but the height.
I think the thing that I like about him is that you will know very soon whether he will be able to adjust. There wouldn't need to be a long evaluation period for him, because if he struggles with any aspect of being a pro quarterback he becomes your "wildcat" option.
We burn second round picks for smaller, less valuable players.
In a year that everyone is whooping about our FA signings and talking about the draft being icing on the cake, I don't know why someone wouldn't at least consider him in the fourth.

brorth · 04-17-2012, 12:34 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...041553817.html

Gruden on Wilson FWIW

Russell Wilson, Wisconsin: "I think [size] is the issue with Russell Wilson. That might be the reason that he's not picked in the first couple rounds. The only issue with Russell Wilson is his height [he's 5-11]. He's got tremendous mobility. I've got him at 4.50 in the 40. He's mastered two different offensive systems. When do any of us remember a kid transferring from NC State to Wisconsin in July and breaking every Wisconsin Badger record? The Badgers could have won every game this year if not for a couple Hail Marys.
"This is a tremendous kid. His intangibles are off the charts. He walks into Wisconsin, he's a team captain. We all know what a great athlete he is. He's a high draft choice in baseball.
"The only issue is his height, and we use Drew Brees as the classic example. If you just look at one inch or an inch and a half, that's the height difference in Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. But he's got a lot of questions and answers. There are not a lot of quarterbacks under 6 feet that are playing in the NFL today or who have played the game, period. He's going to have to answer those questions. Hopefully the right guy gives him an opportunity and he takes advantage of it, because when you watch the tape, every film you watch at NC State or Wisconsin, the results are very similar. It's successful, solid, gameday competitive. It's exciting. I wish him the best. He's a special kid. I just hope he gets with the right [coaching staff]."

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-17-2012, 01:07 PM

No.

We could probably sign Troy Smith for less.

Same player.

melbar · 04-17-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

No.

We could probably sign Troy Smith for less.

Same player.

Did troy smith have the highest QB rating in colege fb?

Nightfyre · 04-17-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

No.

We could probably sign Troy Smith for less.

Same player.

this post is reeruned.

Bewbies · 04-17-2012, 09:21 PM

Id take Wilson over Troy Smith everytime. Troy Smith sucks.

Blick · 04-17-2012, 10:41 PM

I don't understand what people are worried about with the height issue. Batted down passes? Field vision? What's the problem? He didn't have those problems in college, and it's not like NFL linemen are significantly taller.

He has big hands too, so ball security isn't an issue.

This guy is more like Drew Brees than Troy Smith or Seneca Wallace.

04-11-2012, 08:52 PM
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	Russell Wilson Watched QB camp with Gruden and was very impressed. Would love to get him in the 3rd. I think he has potential to be special. Height is the ONLY reason he isnt top 10. Anyone else see him much? CBSsports Analysis Accuracy: Was the nation's most efficient quarterback in 2011, earning a 191.78 QB rating -- over 22 points higher than the next highest rated QB from a pro-style offense (Andrew Luck) … Showcased the ability to consistently throw receivers open versus single coverage as a senior, demonstrating impressive improvement in this area from his time at NC State … Delivers a tight spiral that is easily tracked and caught. Typically hits his receivers in stride whether on zipped crossing routes, touch passes dropped over the top of defenders or line drives leading receivers out of bounds on the deep out. Arm Strength: Arguably Wilson's most impressive trait, especially considering his lack of ideal size. Can easily make every NFL throw, showing the ability to drive the football to the sideline on a line from the opposite hash. Can send the ball 40-50 yards downfield with a flick of his wrist. Setup/Release: Efficient set-up and delivery of the ball. Experienced taking snaps from under center and shotgun. Drops back quickly and shows good rhythm and timing despite limited experience playing with Wisconsin's receivers, planting his back foot and driving the quick slant. Has a quick, over the top release and does an excellent job of finding clear passing lanes from which to throw. Reading Defenses: Cerebral quarterback who is rarely fooled by coverage. Makes strong pre-snap reads and demonstrated improvement as a senior in manipulating the defense with his eyes and legs. Shows good poise in a muddy pocket, stepping up to avoid the rush and challenging linebackers to either commit to stopping him from scrambling or dropping off to cover receivers behind them. Is more than willing to scramble but does a nice job of keeping his eyes downfield until the last possible second. On The Move: Very good elusiveness and speed for the position but his most impressive trait may be his vision. Anticipates pressure well and does a nice job of forcing the defense to commit and taking advantage of the weakness exposed once they do. Very good mobility for bootlegs and roll outs, showing good accuracy and arm strength to fire passes downfield. Intangibles: Voted a team captain at NC State and Wisconsin … Attempted 379 passes between interceptions -- the longest streak in NCAA history -- over a two year span of 13 games in 2009-10. Finished his collegiate career 30-20, including 11-3 as a senior … Wilson was drafted in the fourth round of the 2009 MLB draft by the Colorado Rockies. The second baseman hit .229 with five home runs and 26 RBIs in the Northwest and South Atlantic leagues. Wilson notified the Rockies in January 2012 that he will pursue playing in the NFL over baseball … Good bloodlines. His father, the late Harrison Wilson III, played football and baseball at Dartmouth and spent time on the San Diego Chargers' practice squad …
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04-16-2012, 10:43 PM	#80
Dmello12 Starter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Lawrence Casino cash: $10008180	i liked the interview but i honestly think stanzi will be a better pro than any qb that wont be picked with the first or second pick. i could be wrong but i'd rather have stanzi under center than any of these guys.
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04-17-2012, 11:52 AM	#83
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2764064	Just caught Wilsons qb camp and watched him on ESPN. I'm starting to change my mind on the guy. He is short, really short. He's gonna have to work his ass off to become something though.
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04-17-2012, 12:34 PM	#85
brorth Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: lobation Casino cash: $1722480	http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...041553817.html Gruden on Wilson FWIW Russell Wilson, Wisconsin: "I think [size] is the issue with Russell Wilson. That might be the reason that he's not picked in the first couple rounds. The only issue with Russell Wilson is his height [he's 5-11]. He's got tremendous mobility. I've got him at 4.50 in the 40. He's mastered two different offensive systems. When do any of us remember a kid transferring from NC State to Wisconsin in July and breaking every Wisconsin Badger record? The Badgers could have won every game this year if not for a couple Hail Marys. "This is a tremendous kid. His intangibles are off the charts. He walks into Wisconsin, he's a team captain. We all know what a great athlete he is. He's a high draft choice in baseball. "The only issue is his height, and we use Drew Brees as the classic example. If you just look at one inch or an inch and a half, that's the height difference in Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. But he's got a lot of questions and answers. There are not a lot of quarterbacks under 6 feet that are playing in the NFL today or who have played the game, period. He's going to have to answer those questions. Hopefully the right guy gives him an opportunity and he takes advantage of it, because when you watch the tape, every film you watch at NC State or Wisconsin, the results are very similar. It's successful, solid, gameday competitive. It's exciting. I wish him the best. He's a special kid. I just hope he gets with the right [coaching staff]."
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04-17-2012, 01:07 PM	#86
BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	No. We could probably sign Troy Smith for less. Same player.
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04-17-2012, 09:21 PM	#89
Bewbies Ith Fuhtbawl Time Join Date: Apr 2010 Casino cash: $9999900	Id take Wilson over Troy Smith everytime. Troy Smith sucks.
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04-17-2012, 10:41 PM	#90
Blick Veteran Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South KC Casino cash: $10004900	I don't understand what people are worried about with the height issue. Batted down passes? Field vision? What's the problem? He didn't have those problems in college, and it's not like NFL linemen are significantly taller. He has big hands too, so ball security isn't an issue. This guy is more like Drew Brees than Troy Smith or Seneca Wallace.
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