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Old 09-10-2014, 09:32 PM  
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Dee Ford: Waste of a pick?

Drafting Dee Ford sucked for 2014 because of:

1. He doesn't look ready to contribute, even as a pass rusher.

2. Sutton won't use him much because of this.

3. There were a bunch of players who were available who would have improved our team immediately at other positions and actually played for us from week 1: Jason Verrett, Bradley Roby, Jordan Matthews, Kelvin Benjamin, Jimmie Ward, Cody Latimer, etc. Selecting any of those guys would have helped strengthen our roster more than drafting Dee Ford did.

4. Jeremiah Attaochu was a better OLB prospect.

Why drafting Dee Ford in 2014 screws us in the 1st round for 2015:

Instead of going into the 2015 NFL Draft with some measure of security at the WR, S, or CB position, we have some big questionmarks there and it doesn't help that Ford himself is a big question mark with his lack of effectiveness.

Now why does that really suck? Let's take a quick look at these 2015 prospects:

Randy Gregory
Shilique Calhoun
Vic Beasley
Dante Fowler Jr.

These are all very good to great 3-4 OLB prospects who are strong first round talents, they aren't borderline prospects like Ford was coming out of college. The 3-4 OLB class in 2015 is deeper than the 2014 one was. We will have a shot at atleast 1 of the top three OLB prospects next year but won't draft him because we already took Dee Ford.

We could have been set at WR, CB, or Safety and taken a better OLB of the future prospect next year.

So much for Dorsey planning ahead.
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:54 AM   #121
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"**** what the team needs...AH DRAFT WHO AH WHANT!"
Because drafting for need is smart right? That's what all the good teams do right?
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:57 AM   #122
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Because drafting for need is smart right? That's what all the good teams do right?
Every team managed to do it last year in the first round because there was that much talent. Only we reached for a super weak (outside pass rusher) position and didn't get value there.

And yes, all good teams do address the weaknesses on their teams...
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:57 AM   #123
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If you trade TWO 2nd round picks for a 30 year veteran QB, regardless of quality, what other message are you sending other than " Win now"?
Who did that? Might wanna go check your facts, and play again next time!!
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Who did that? Might wanna go check your facts, and play again next time!!
We did.
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Every team managed to do it last year in the first round because there was that much talent. Only we reached for a super weak (outside pass rusher) position and didn't get value there.

And yes, all good teams do address the weaknesses on their teams...
A few teams=every team /Rausch
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Old 09-11-2014, 11:00 AM   #126
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Show me 4 first round picks from last year that wasn't at an area of need...
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Old 09-11-2014, 11:03 AM   #128
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We did.
You're really strengthening your case of being an idiot (not that you needed to). Alex Smith was 28 when we signed him! It's called FACTS, you really should look into them occasionally!

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Show me 4 first round picks from last year that wasn't at an area of need...
Don't you know how to use google? Oh yeah probably not since you thought Alex Smith was 30 when we signed him! You should look into google sometime, it's pretty useful!
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You're really strengthening your case of being an idiot (not that you needed to). Alex Smith was 27 when we signed him! It's called FACTS, you really should look into them occasionally!
He didn't sign anything in KC until a couple weeks ago and he was 28 when the trade happened, if I'm not mistaken. Would be kinda hard to be 27 when he's 30 now.
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You're really strengthening your case of being an idiot (not that you needed to). Alex Smith was 27 when we signed him! It's called FACTS, you really should look into them occasionally!
I concide the error. Yet the point is still valid. Ever consider litigation as a career?
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I concide the error. Yet the point is still valid. Ever consider litigation as a career?
Lol! They had nobody else they felt comfortable with getting us through the rebuilding process. No qbs they felt were worthy of the draft pick. He's not our qbotf he's our qb to get us til we can get a better one. Then he can help him become a better player like he did for Kaep. Who else would we have had besides A Smith?
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He didn't sign anything in KC until a couple weeks ago and he was 28 when the trade happened, if I'm not mistaken. Would be kinda hard to be 27 when he's 30 now.
Yeah I meant 28 but I have fat fingers. (At least that's what I'm sticking with) I don't deny my idiocy like some on here!
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Lol! They had nobody else they felt comfortable with getting us through the rebuilding process. No qbs they felt were worthy of the draft pick. He's not our qbotf he's our qb to get us til we can get a better one. Then he can help him become a better player like he did for Kaep. Who else would we have had besides A Smith?
Should have stuck with Cassel if they cared about finding a QBotF. At least with him they would have had annual #1 picks.
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Lol! They had nobody else they felt comfortable with getting us through the rebuilding process. No qbs they felt were worthy of the draft pick. He's not our qbotf he's our qb to get us til we can get a better one. Then he can help him become a better player like he did for Kaep. Who else would we have had besides A Smith?
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