Fast food Union / $15 dollars an hour

[TribalElder]

What the ****

Mc Donald's workers are striking for 15 dollars an hour or something?

WTF

[DaneMcCloud]

When I was in high school, I was a checker at Safeway. I earned $3.85 an hour (which I thought was pretty good back then) but the senior checkers earned at much as $17.00 dollars an hour. They often worked overtime to earn more than $25 dollar an hour and the full timers (I was part time) had excellent health insurance benefits.

I thought it was pretty cool that people could earn more than $30k a year, in 1983, for being a checker, but all of those people owned homes in the Shawnee and Lenexa area, raised kids and were good people.

There was a time in this country where fairly smart people who didn't have a college education could still lead a normal life. Those times are over and there's no one else to blame than corporate greed, investors and Wall Street.

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

When I was in high school, I was a checker at Safeway. I earned $3.85 an hour (which I thought was pretty good back then) but the senior checkers earned at much as $17.00 dollars an hour. They often worked overtime to earn more than $25 dollar an hour.

I thought it was pretty silly that people could earn more than $30k a year, in 1983, for being a checker, but all of those people owned homes in the Shawnee and Lenexa area, raised kids and were good people.

There was a time in this country where fairly smart people who didn't have a college education could still lead a normal life. Those times are over and there's no one else to blame than corporate greed.

I agree with this line of thought

[notorious]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

When I was in high school, I was a checker at Safeway. I earned $3.85 an hour (which I thought was pretty good back then) but the senior checkers earned at much as $17.00 dollars an hour. They often worked overtime to earn more than $25 dollar an hour.

I thought it was pretty silly that people could earn more than $30k a year, in 1983, for being a checker, but all of those people owned homes in the Shawnee and Lenexa area, raised kids and were good people.

There was a time in this country where fairly smart people who didn't have a college education could still lead a normal life. Those times are over and there's no one else to blame than corporate greed.

Yep.


They put billions in their pockets while we subsidize their employees.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I will gladly answer all that after you explain how they can pay more for the employee and charge less for the product but here we pay less for the employee and charge more for the product.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

When I was in high school, I was a checker at Safeway. I earned $3.85 an hour (which I thought was pretty good back then) but the senior checkers earned at much as $17.00 dollars an hour. They often worked overtime to earn more than $25 dollar an hour and the full timers (I was part time) had excellent health insurance benefits.

I thought it was pretty cool that people could earn more than $30k a year, in 1983, for being a checker, but all of those people owned homes in the Shawnee and Lenexa area, raised kids and were good people.

There was a time in this country where fairly smart people who didn't have a college education could still lead a normal life. Those times are over and there's no one else to blame than corporate greed, investors and Wall Street.

Truth.

[rtmike]

Originally Posted by Hamwallet

These pictures are cute. What is there income tax rate? Corporate tax rate? Average rent on a 2 bedroom apartment? Price of gas? It's real easy to make a picture with cherry picked facts and outrage uneducated people that made a career out of fast food.

*******************************US********Australia
Apartment (1 bedroom) in City Centre $948.54**** $1,263.30


Gasoline (1 liter)******************$0.81 ********$1.15

Avg. Monthly Disp. Salary (After Tax) $2,632.21*****$3,216.95

[Rain Man]

It sounds like there's a lot of support for raising the minimum wage.

I would support it as well. I'm not sure if that's a $15 wage or something higher or lower, but I think it needs to be raised.

[Saulbadguy]

I wouldn't work at a McDonalds for $20 an hour.

[Dayze]

I'm sitting in a hotel room out of town at orientation for my new job.......I'm going in first thing in the morning and demanding more compensation if minimum wage goes up to 15 an hour


Wish me luck.

[Just Passin' By]

These idiots are just hastening the day when they'll all be replaced by machines.

[notorious]

I hate the idea that the government will have to force this eventually.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by notorious

I hate the idea that the government will have to force this eventually.

And then raise taxes to get a bigger piece the pie they just helped to increase

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by CarlPeterson_fan

And it's not just fast food that will go way up. Our groceries and home supplies, our entertainment, most of the things that a large chunk of our income would go up, driving up the cost of living and lowering the real income of everyone. Think about it. Walmart, Target, grocery stores, theme parks, he k, even factory labor pays less than $15/ hr. When all of those people get $4-$5/ hr raises, a $150 trip to the store will jump to a $250 trip. Sure the people who got the raises will be able to cover it, but what about the people making $15/ hr now? They just suffered a catastrophic loss of disposable income. If they are already living paycheck to paycheck, where is that extra $100/ week going to come from!

Originally Posted by Baconeater

Loneiguana should be along shortly with a bunch of charts and graphs and links to prove that isn't true.

You don't need charts and graphs to show why this "everything will be super more expensive! if we have to pay more" is wrong.

You just need a fundamental understanding of supply and demand.

What happens when the price of something goes up? Demand decreases.

What happens when demand decreases? Price decrease.

Something is only worth what the purchaser will pay for it.

No one is going to pay double for a cheeseburger just because the minimum wage went up.

/you also are calculated the increase in goods and services sold from increased wages in your calculations.

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by notorious

I hate the idea that the government will have to force this eventually.

Unions.

Just saying.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

Unions.

Just saying.

Ugh.


Well, if the massive corps. would have given more over the years they wouldn't have to worry about a union.


They are getting what they deserve.