Chiefs Cousins and Fields

synthesis2 · 08:03 AM

So I'm good with getting blasted and I'm sure I'm not looking at this right but for the life of me I don't know why anyone would want either one of these guys to be their starting QB. Hear me out.

Very few teams in the NFL win a QB with a above average QB and even fewer win with a average QB. You have to have an elite QB and not just elite during the regular season but that "it" factor in the post season where they can put the team on their back and win a series of games including the big one. Stats are just stats but having that person that can WIN in the postseason vs. one who is happy to be there.

The way I size up both QB's and I'm good with getting blasted by people here.

Fields - Completely don't get it . 2 to 1 losing record, just barely more TD's to INT's and runs for around 500-600 yards a season. Does not look like a leader in anyway and if you tell me what do you think the odds are of winning a superbowl which is the entire point of the QB I would say there is a 0% chance you can win a superbowl with him. Do I think you could be a 500 team with him? maybe but no more than that. What do I think his worth is worth? No more than Trubisky maybe 3-5 million a year and a ok backup. I have no idea what this guy has done to prove to anyone that he is a QB that can make the playoffs and then win a SB. I'd be every penny to my name he never wins a SB in his life, heck I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't playing football in 3-5 years, he just isn't that good.

Cousins- yes his story on netflix was great and seems like a nice guy but lets be real, he can put up good regular season numbers but completely falls apart in the post season. Its probably in his head but physically he just isn't a very dynamic guy. His #1 focus isn't winning a superbowl, his number one focus is getting as much money as he can, period that's all... He never gives teams hometown discounts or cares about the city or the team, just cares about himself. If you say what are the odds you can win a SB with Cousins ? If you put his regular season and post season together he is alex smith (shorter) and thats it.
you might have a 1% chance to win a SB with him if his salary is 5-10 million to get an amazing team around him to win but he isn't worth more than 10 million a year because he isn't the kind of QB that can put a team on his back and win the big one and he is on the down side of his career now so it isn't getting better. The fact that people pay him the money he wants is crazy, good for the falcons... and I'm sure winning 8,9 or 10 gams is great........ Here's reality, "your not winning a superbowl, ever " with Kurt, nice guy but not good enough to do what Mahomes does. If I'm a team I say we will give you 10 million (which he wouldnt accept because he thinks he is worth 4X that amount) or draft a rookie where you don't know the upside, I mean who cares, if you can't make the superbowl keep trying to find your diamond in the rough until you do. Cousins isn't worth much because if th goal is to win a superbowl it will never happen with him. All he cares about is money, period...

Jewish Rabbi · 03-12-2024, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis2

So I'm good with getting blasted and I'm sure I'm not looking at this right but for the life of me I don't know why anyone would want either one of these guys to be their starting QB. Here me out.

Very few teams in the NFL win a QB with a above average QB and even fewer win with a average QB. You have to have an elite QB and not just elite during the regular season but that "it" factor in the post season where they can put the team on their back and win a series of games including the big one. Stats are just stats but having that person that can WIN in the postseason vs. one who is happy to be there.

The way I size up both QB's and I'm good with getting blasted by people here.

Fields - Completely don't get it . 2 to 1 losing record, just barely more TD's to INT's and runs for around 500-600 yards a season. Does not look like a leader in anyway and if you tell me what do you think the odds are of winning a superbowl which is the entire point of the QB I would say there is a 0% chance you can win a superbowl with him. Do I think you could be a 500 team with him? maybe but no more than that. What do I think his worth is worth? No more than Trubisky maybe 3-5 million a year and a ok backup. I have no idea what this guy has done to prove to anyone that he is a QB that can make the playoffs and then win a SB. I'd be every penny to my name he never wins a SB in his life, heck I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't playing football in 3-5 years, he just isn't that good.

Cousins- yes his story on netflix was great and seems like a nice guy but lets be real, he can put up good regular season numbers but completely falls apart in the post season. Its probably in his head but physically he just isn't a very dynamic guy. His #1 focus isn't winning a superbowl, his number one focus is getting as much money as he can, period that's all... He never gives teams hometown discounts or cares about the city or the team, just cares about himself. If you say what are the odds you can win a SB with Cousins ? If you put his regular season and post season together he is alex smith (shorter) and thats it.
you might have a 1% chance to win a SB with him if his salary is 5-10 million to get an amazing team around him to win but he isn't worth more than 10 million a year because he isn't the kind of QB that can put a team on his back and win the big one and he is on the down side of his career now so it isn't getting better. The fact that people pay him the money he wants is crazy, good for the falcons... and I'm sure winning 8,9 or 10 gams is great........ Here's reality, "your not winning a superbowl, ever " with Kurt, nice guy but not good enough to do what Mahomes does. If I'm a team I say we will give you 10 million (which he wouldnt accept because he thinks he is worth 4X that amount) or draft a rookie where you don't know the upside, I mean who cares, if you can't make the superbowl keep trying to find your diamond in the rough until you do. Cousins isn't worth much because if th goal is to win a superbowl it will never happen with him. All he cares about is money, period...

Stopped reading at “here” me out

kcgreene · 03-12-2024, 07:52 AM

T-post Tom · 03-12-2024, 07:52 AM

Damn. Was hoping for a good incest on the family farm thread.

Why Not? · 03-12-2024, 08:02 AM

Sure. But elite quarterbacks are extremely hard to find. You can make a case that there is only 1 legit elite QB in the league right now. Allen, Burrow (when healthy) and I guess I’ll throw Lamar in there, are all very good to great. But how can you be considered elite if there is someone else clearly better than you are?

So, teams have to get quarterbacks to play for them. The reality is, Cousins is a top half of the league QB, proving how hard it is to find great, let alone elite, QBs

Rainbarrel · 03-12-2024, 08:09 AM

Their children aren't poor and have to settle for baby wild animals as birthday gifts

Molitoth · 03-12-2024, 08:18 AM

Remember when the Chiefs brought in Alex Smith?

Same reason Atlanta brought in Cousins.

FloridaMan88 · 03-12-2024, 08:33 AM

Atlanta could have signed Lamar Jackson last year and instead they are going with a brokedick 36 year old Kirk Cousins.

I am certainly no Lamar fan, but I'd rather have him than a 36 year old Kirk Cousins coming off an Achilles injury.

Spott · 03-12-2024, 08:35 AM

Here me out, who in the hell is Kurt Cousins?

Bl00dyBizkitz · 03-12-2024, 08:38 AM

Basically, there are 32 teams in the NFL, but probably less than 5 QB's that can realistically win a Super Bowl.

So what do you do? Do you tank for one? Trade up? Somehow find one who's available in free agency? All of those paths are either unavailable to most teams, or have massive downsides that will end up getting you fired if it goes wrong.

This is why you sign a QB like Mayfield or Cousins, they're job security for GMs. They keep you respectable and might even win a playoff game, which for some teams and fanbases is a huge success.

**loochy** · 03-12-2024, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthesis2

So I'm good with getting blasted and I'm sure I'm not looking at this right but for the life of me I don't know why anyone would want either one of these guys to be their starting QB. Here me out.

Very few teams in the NFL win a QB with a above average QB and even fewer win with a average QB. You have to have an elite QB and not just elite during the regular season but that "it" factor in the post season where they can put the team on their back and win a series of games including the big one. Stats are just stats but having that person that can WIN in the postseason vs. one who is happy to be there.

The way I size up both QB's and I'm good with getting blasted by people here.

Fields - Completely don't get it . 2 to 1 losing record, just barely more TD's to INT's and runs for around 500-600 yards a season. Does not look like a leader in anyway and if you tell me what do you think the odds are of winning a superbowl which is the entire point of the QB I would say there is a 0% chance you can win a superbowl with him. Do I think you could be a 500 team with him? maybe but no more than that. What do I think his worth is worth? No more than Trubisky maybe 3-5 million a year and a ok backup. I have no idea what this guy has done to prove to anyone that he is a QB that can make the playoffs and then win a SB. I'd be every penny to my name he never wins a SB in his life, heck I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't playing football in 3-5 years, he just isn't that good.

Cousins- yes his story on netflix was great and seems like a nice guy but lets be real, he can put up good regular season numbers but completely falls apart in the post season. Its probably in his head but physically he just isn't a very dynamic guy. His #1 focus isn't winning a superbowl, his number one focus is getting as much money as he can, period that's all... He never gives teams hometown discounts or cares about the city or the team, just cares about himself. If you say what are the odds you can win a SB with Cousins ? If you put his regular season and post season together he is alex smith (shorter) and thats it.
you might have a 1% chance to win a SB with him if his salary is 5-10 million to get an amazing team around him to win but he isn't worth more than 10 million a year because he isn't the kind of QB that can put a team on his back and win the big one and he is on the down side of his career now so it isn't getting better. The fact that people pay him the money he wants is crazy, good for the falcons... and I'm sure winning 8,9 or 10 gams is great........ Here's reality, "your not winning a superbowl, ever " with Kurt, nice guy but not good enough to do what Mahomes does. If I'm a team I say we will give you 10 million (which he wouldnt accept because he thinks he is worth 4X that amount) or draft a rookie where you don't know the upside, I mean who cares, if you can't make the superbowl keep trying to find your diamond in the rough until you do. Cousins isn't worth much because if th goal is to win a superbowl it will never happen with him. All he cares about is money, period...

Here you out

There you in

ChiefsCountry · 03-12-2024, 09:00 AM

Kirk Cousins is Trent Green

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-12-2024, 09:05 AM

True fans love these kind of moves. They are thrilled with 9 10 wins and "competing" Most fans aren't like us.

Wisconsin_Chief · 03-12-2024, 09:19 AM

Cousins will win you 10 games like clockwork. An organization like the Falcons will eat that shit up like gravy when they've been sucking ass for so many years.

Fields has incredible physical traits that some coach is going to think they can "fix," so he'll get another shot as well.

There aren't really a lot of options out there, so teams have to make the best with what they have. Except us because we have Patrick Mahomes, who I personally like and think he is quite good based on what I've seen thus far.

**loochy** · 03-12-2024, 09:33 AM

When I heard "Cousins to the Falcons" I thought of Matt Ryan 2.0.

03-12-2024, 07:50 AM
synthesis2 synthesis2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $9335401	Cousins and Fields So I'm good with getting blasted and I'm sure I'm not looking at this right but for the life of me I don't know why anyone would want either one of these guys to be their starting QB. Hear me out. Very few teams in the NFL win a QB with a above average QB and even fewer win with a average QB. You have to have an elite QB and not just elite during the regular season but that "it" factor in the post season where they can put the team on their back and win a series of games including the big one. Stats are just stats but having that person that can WIN in the postseason vs. one who is happy to be there. The way I size up both QB's and I'm good with getting blasted by people here. Fields - Completely don't get it . 2 to 1 losing record, just barely more TD's to INT's and runs for around 500-600 yards a season. Does not look like a leader in anyway and if you tell me what do you think the odds are of winning a superbowl which is the entire point of the QB I would say there is a 0% chance you can win a superbowl with him. Do I think you could be a 500 team with him? maybe but no more than that. What do I think his worth is worth? No more than Trubisky maybe 3-5 million a year and a ok backup. I have no idea what this guy has done to prove to anyone that he is a QB that can make the playoffs and then win a SB. I'd be every penny to my name he never wins a SB in his life, heck I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't playing football in 3-5 years, he just isn't that good. Cousins- yes his story on netflix was great and seems like a nice guy but lets be real, he can put up good regular season numbers but completely falls apart in the post season. Its probably in his head but physically he just isn't a very dynamic guy. His #1 focus isn't winning a superbowl, his number one focus is getting as much money as he can, period that's all... He never gives teams hometown discounts or cares about the city or the team, just cares about himself. If you say what are the odds you can win a SB with Cousins ? If you put his regular season and post season together he is alex smith (shorter) and thats it. you might have a 1% chance to win a SB with him if his salary is 5-10 million to get an amazing team around him to win but he isn't worth more than 10 million a year because he isn't the kind of QB that can put a team on his back and win the big one and he is on the down side of his career now so it isn't getting better. The fact that people pay him the money he wants is crazy, good for the falcons... and I'm sure winning 8,9 or 10 gams is great........ Here's reality, "your not winning a superbowl, ever " with Kurt, nice guy but not good enough to do what Mahomes does. If I'm a team I say we will give you 10 million (which he wouldnt accept because he thinks he is worth 4X that amount) or draft a rookie where you don't know the upside, I mean who cares, if you can't make the superbowl keep trying to find your diamond in the rough until you do. Cousins isn't worth much because if th goal is to win a superbowl it will never happen with him. All he cares about is money, period... Last edited by synthesis2; 03-13-2024 at 08:03 AM..
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03-12-2024, 09:19 AM	#14
Wisconsin_Chief MVP Join Date: Aug 2019 Casino cash: $2020400	Cousins will win you 10 games like clockwork. An organization like the Falcons will eat that shit up like gravy when they've been sucking ass for so many years. Fields has incredible physical traits that some coach is going to think they can "fix," so he'll get another shot as well. There aren't really a lot of options out there, so teams have to make the best with what they have. Except us because we have Patrick Mahomes, who I personally like and think he is quite good based on what I've seen thus far.
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03-12-2024, 09:33 AM	#15
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