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Old 12-14-2017, 11:47 AM  
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Browns' John Dorsey: 'The guys that were here before, they didn't get real players'
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/inde...e_guys_th.html

"You know what? You've got to get a guy like that (Hue Jackson) players,'' Dorsey told the "Really Big Show'' with Aaron Goldhammer on WKNR 850, the home of the Browns today. "And you know what? I'll come straight out with it. The guys who were here before, that system, they didn't get real players.''

Damn, bro. Picking up Hue Jackson's tendencies to throw his own players under the bus.
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Old 12-14-2017, 01:42 PM   #46
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Old 12-14-2017, 01:56 PM   #48
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Also said Kizer was the 4th QB on our board last year.
Who are you putting ahead of him?
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Old 12-14-2017, 01:59 PM   #49
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Also said Kizer was the 4th QB on our board last year.
If I had to guess

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So if you're John Dorsey...do you really want to trade picks and pay a shit-ton of cash for Alex Smith...when Sam Bradford is going to be sitting on the FA market?

He's three years younger, you're not going to be shoehorned into running one type of offense, he's far better at throwing to actual wide receivers, the Browns don't really have a TE....

If you're going to draft a QB anyway, signing Bradford seems to be far better option if you're looking for a stopgap.
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So if you're John Dorsey...do you really want to trade picks and pay a shit-ton of cash for Alex Smith...when Sam Bradford is going to be sitting on the FA market?

He's three years younger, you're not going to be shoehorned into running one type of offense, he's far better at throwing to actual wide receivers, the Browns don't really have a TE....

If you're going to draft a QB anyway, signing Bradford seems to be far better option if you're looking for a stopgap.
No.

Alex can run, he's at his career APEX now and his legs aren't shot like Bradford. Bradford is very injury prone.
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So if you're John Dorsey...do you really want to trade picks and pay a shit-ton of cash for Alex Smith...when Sam Bradford is going to be sitting on the FA market?

He's three years younger, you're not going to be shoehorned into running one type of offense, he's far better at throwing to actual wide receivers, the Browns don't really have a TE....

If you're going to draft a QB anyway, signing Bradford seems to be far better option if you're looking for a stopgap.
Because Bradford is good for 8-9 games a season before getting hurt.

Talk about fool's gold.
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I remember the Colts having the #1 and #2 picks one year. They went with Steve Emtman and Quentin Coryatt.
And the Redshins. Samuel and Arrington
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If you're going to draft a QB anyway, signing Bradford seems to be far better option if you're looking for a stopgap.
A healthy Bradford is a much better QB than Smith and probably wouldn't cost as much either. I'd rather Denver go after Bradford than Cousins TBH.
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So if you're John Dorsey...do you really want to trade picks and pay a shit-ton of cash for Alex Smith...when Sam Bradford is going to be sitting on the FA market?

He's three years younger, you're not going to be shoehorned into running one type of offense, he's far better at throwing to actual wide receivers, the Browns don't really have a TE....

If you're going to draft a QB anyway, signing Bradford seems to be far better option if you're looking for a stopgap.
I would never ever sign Bradford. Good players aren't good if they don't play.
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And the Redshins. Samuel and Arrington
They were 2 and 3. #1 was future HOFer Courtney Brown drafted by the Browns.
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So if you're John Dorsey...do you really want to trade picks and pay a shit-ton of cash for Alex Smith...when Sam Bradford is going to be sitting on the FA market?

He's three years younger, you're not going to be shoehorned into running one type of offense, he's far better at throwing to actual wide receivers, the Browns don't really have a TE....

If you're going to draft a QB anyway, signing Bradford seems to be far better option if you're looking for a stopgap.
He is not going to trade for Alex. He will have 2 of the top 10, maybe 2 in the top 5 picks in the draft. If you take a QB 1, which they will, your not trading anything of value for Alex, nor waste cap space on a FA QB, who is going to want a 3 year deal.

Nope Browns are going to draft their QB and look to start him right away.
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A healthy Bradford is a much better QB than Smith and probably wouldn't cost as much either. I'd rather Denver go after Bradford than Cousins TBH.
Yeah, bro. That's kind of been the story of his career. He's played in all 16 games 2 times out of 8. His 1st and 3rd year.
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Has Bradford ever had a year close to what Smith has done this year?
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