Movies and TV Game of Thrones Thread - Page 57

**BigRedChief** · 02:53 PM

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RustShack · 06-23-2015, 09:51 PM

I feel like the flashback and revival will be episode 1.

crazycoffey · 06-24-2015, 06:21 AM

Rewatching for a third time, still catching little things I missed before. Definitely see cat treat Jon more coldly. But I was just wondering about Dany's brother, viserys. What happens to his sword after khal gives him the gold crown?

duncan_idaho · 06-24-2015, 07:51 AM

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I heard that too, but it's suspected to be a flashback like Cerci's I want a whole season of targaryn rule and then war.

If they introduce Septon Meribald as a character, he could cover some of Robert's Rebellion via flashback, so they could potentially stretch it out.

Just a random thought, but it would be cool.

Hawk · 06-24-2015, 08:19 AM

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Would one of you book readers please tell me just what in the hell is going on with Arya and the Many Faced God and her tutor?

What is expected of her, why was she punished so harshly for a minor transgression, why was the tutor so cool to begin with in seasons past but has now become an incredibly mysterious asshole?

Help me understand...

You can't reasonably expect the training to become a world class assassin to be easy and heartwarming. The Faceless Men are trained killers. The training requires discipline, and it requires Arya to forget her former self and become no one so she can then serve the Many Faced God, rather than serving House Stark or any other of her old ties to country or family.

But she failed to follow her orders and instead killed someone because of her personal motives as Arya Stark rather than killing the person she was assigned to kill by the Many Faced God, so she clearly was not ready to be no one and give up her past. She already showed this by keeping her sword, Needle, and she showed it again by killing Meryn Trant (on the show anyway, in the books she kills a different person) instead of the insurance guy.

So she was punished, and rightly so from the perspective of her training, though on the show they made it seem like it was because of some magic of putting on the face without permission and before she was ready to be no one. I guess if you are not "no one" and try to wear another face, then it doesn't go well afterwards, at least on the show. In the books it was more a punishment by the man training her who gives her a drink that blinds her.

I'm curious to see if the show follows the books on some of the things that happen next with Arya. In particular:

Book Spoiler that may be in the show next season:

Spoiler!

Beef Supreme · 06-24-2015, 08:38 AM

If, like everyone suspects, John Snow is the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen, Ned was a special kind of SOB for not telling his wife and letting her hate on his "bastard" son all those years.

**BigRichard** · 06-24-2015, 08:40 AM

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If, like everyone suspects, John Snow is the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen, Ned was a special kind of SOB for not telling his wife and letting her hate on his "bastard" son all those years.

Rather have her hate him then anyone else knowing and creating another war or having someone come to slay Jon. And that is exactly what would have happened.

Beef Supreme · 06-24-2015, 08:41 AM

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Rather have her hate him then anyone else knowing and creating another war or having someone come to slay Jon. And that is exactly what would have happened.

I get that it needed to be a big secret. Did he not trust his wife to keep it?

**BigRichard** · 06-24-2015, 08:43 AM

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I get that it needed to be a big secret. Did he not trust his wife to keep it?

If you had a secret that you know could cause the death of thousands of people that you know all you have to do was make sure it didn't get out would you trust that secret to anyone including your wife?

duncan_idaho · 06-24-2015, 08:44 AM

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I get that it needed to be a big secret. Did he not trust his wife to keep it?

Would you trust Catelyn Stark to keep a secret like that?

She was kind of an idiot who was terrible at making decisions. Just like her brother and sister.

Ned did what he had to. He knew if Robert found out, that likely would mean war. With the man he considers a brother. And his honor would not have allowed him to step aside.

Beef Supreme · 06-24-2015, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard

If you had a secret that you know could cause the death of thousands of people that you know all you have to do was make sure it didn't get out would you trust that secret to anyone including your wife?

If he couldn't trust her to keep her mouth shut to keep people from killing an innocent child, that says a lot about their relationship, and none of it good.

Beef Supreme · 06-24-2015, 08:51 AM

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Would you trust Catelyn Stark to keep a secret like that?

She was kind of an idiot who was terrible at making decisions. Just like her brother and sister.

Ned did what he had to. He knew if Robert found out, that likely would mean war. With the man he considers a brother. And his honor would not have allowed him to step aside.

Yeah, she was kind of an idiot. I get why he did it, I suppose. I just imagine him watching her treat Jon like shit all those years while biting his tongue.

duncan_idaho · 06-24-2015, 08:53 AM

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If he couldn't trust her to keep her mouth shut to keep people from killing an innocent child, that says a lot about their relationship, and none of it good.

No, it says she's a hotheaded moron who makes hasty decisions.

duncan_idaho · 06-24-2015, 08:54 AM

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Yeah, she was kind of an idiot. I get why he did it, I suppose. I just imagine him watching her treat Jon like shit all those years while biting his tongue.

And silently just dealing with things, because that was what was best for all involved.

It's why he was finally going to talk to Jon about everything when "he saw him next." Because as a sworn brother of the Night's Watch, Jon would no longer be a threat and could know the truth.

**The Franchise** · 06-24-2015, 09:03 AM

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If he couldn't trust her to keep her mouth shut to keep people from killing an innocent child, that says a lot about their relationship, and none of it good.

Then think about this....

If Ned tells Cat who Jon really is.....don't you think that Robert would question why Cat WASN'T being a bitch to Jon? Ned comes home with a bastard and Cat is just cool with it and treats him like one of her own?

**Buehler445** · 06-24-2015, 09:04 AM

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If, like everyone suspects, John Snow is the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen, Ned was a special kind of SOB for not telling his wife and letting her hate on his "bastard" son all those years.

Yeah. He didn't want to go to war with Robert Baratheon. He's have got his head bashed in with a war hammer. And weren't they pissed at each other for Roberts decision to not punish the mountain for splitting those kids' heads against the wall?

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If he couldn't trust her to keep her mouth shut to keep people from killing an innocent child, that says a lot about their relationship, and none of it good.

Their relationship wasn't especially good. She resented him the whole time. I think I read somewhere that she never wanted to marry him after Branden died. She was pissed at him for having basically PTSD after the war. She loves her kids and like all Tulleys are fully committed to their house which means stay married to the Stark family.

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Yeah, she was kind of an idiot. I get why he did it, I suppose. I just imagine him watching her treat Jon like shit all those years while biting his tongue.

Better than watching the Mountain come bash his head against the wall.

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