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View Poll Results: If no QB then who?
LT Luke Joekel 40 31.01%
DE Star Lotulelei 30 23.26%
LB Jarvis Jones 19 14.73%
Other (who, why?) 40 31.01%
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:51 PM   #1
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errrr, wrong.

elway I can't attest to--I was less than four months old.

manning was such a sure-thing that OVER HALF OF THE NFL GMS WOULD HAVE PICKED RYAN LEAF OVER HIM

eli and andrew luck were both GOOD coming out, but certainly not 'sure things.' as close as you can get, but NOT sure things.
hell, while we're on the topic... ignoring hindsight... was jamarcus russell a 'sure-thing?'

I mean... go look up what mel kiper and ALL OF THE REST OF THE PUNDITS were saying about him. HE WAS THE NEXT JOHN ELWAY.

if that's not a sure thing, I really don't know what is. if you're going to use hindsight, use it evenly-- jamarcus russell was as well-thought of as ANY QB coming out not named luck or manning. where is he right now? good question--he's trying to lose weight so some team won't try him at ****ing left tackle
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:00 PM   #2
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errrr, wrong.

elway I can't attest to--I was less than four months old.
Elway was drafted by the Yankees and the Colts. The guy was a stud. There was no way he going to fail.


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manning was such a sure-thing that OVER HALF OF THE NFL GMS WOULD HAVE PICKED RYAN LEAF OVER HIM
And everyone one of those GM's would have been fired, just like Beathard was for reaching on Leaf.

The stupidity of GM's doesn't negate the fact that there was absolutely NO WAY Peyton Manning was going to bust.

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eli and andrew luck were both GOOD coming out, but certainly not 'sure things.' as close as you can get, but NOT sure things.
Puh-leeese. Who in their right mind felt that Andrew Luck was anything other than the best QB available in the draft since Peyton Manning?

NO chance that Luck was a bust. None, zero, zilch.
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:40 PM   #3
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And for the number one pick...YES!! He should be a sure thing..
Just because a guy doesn't play QB and Kiper has him at 1, doesn't make him a sure thing.
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:45 PM   #4
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And for the number one pick...YES!! He should be a sure thing..
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:55 PM   #6
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Whomever Todd McShay says we will get, we will get. He is the one that knows what he is talking about. I think he has us penned for Jarvis Jones.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:03 PM   #7
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Draft Geno to play both ways, as a left tackle and a hybrid DE/LB pass rush specialist. If that doesn't work out in the first 48 hours or so, shift him to quarterback and see if that position suits him better. Everybody's happy.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:46 PM   #8
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Draft Geno to play both ways, as a left tackle and a hybrid DE/LB pass rush specialist. If that doesn't work out in the first 48 hours or so, shift him to quarterback and see if that position suits him better. Everybody's happy.
The way he's talked about on this forum, I'm surprised that the other 52 guys are even necessary
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:09 PM   #9
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let's look at other can't miss guys that come to mind:

reggie bush
tony mandarich
robert gallery
charles rodgers
heath shuler
rick mirer
tim couch
bruce pickens
rich campbell (green bay packers)
david carr
hell... you can throw aundray bruce on that list

ALL OF THOSE GUYS were considered can't miss at the time they were drafted. ALL.OF.THEM.

can't miss guys miss ALL THE GODDAMNED TIME
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:09 PM   #10
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let's look at other can't miss guys that come to mind:

reggie bush
tony mandarich
robert gallery
charles rodgers
heath shuler
rick mirer
tim couch
bruce pickens
rich campbell (green bay packers)
david carr
hell... you can throw aundray bruce on that list

ALL OF THOSE GUYS were considered can't miss at the time they were drafted. ALL.OF.THEM.

can't miss guys miss ALL THE GODDAMNED TIME
You fiend.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:11 PM   #11
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let's look at other can't miss guys that come to mind:

reggie bush
tony mandarich
robert gallery
charles rodgers
heath shuler
rick mirer
tim couch
bruce pickens
rich campbell (green bay packers)
david carr
hell... you can throw aundray bruce on that list

ALL OF THOSE GUYS were considered can't miss at the time they were drafted. ALL.OF.THEM.

can't miss guys miss ALL THE GODDAMNED TIME
Riiiight
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:13 PM   #12
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Riiiight
comment in derision all you want. doesn't make it any less true.
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comment in derision all you want. doesn't make it any less true.
Bullshit.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:27 PM   #14
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Bullshit.
BY DEFINITION, you can't be considered a BUST (all of the guys on my list? COLOSSAL BUSTS) unless it wasn't OBVIOUS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE that you were going to be PRETTY DAMNED GOOD.

vis-a-vis... not bullshit in the least. can't miss. did miss. suck it, trebek.
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Remember when we drafted Glenn Dorsey? Everybody said he was a sure thing.

Robert Gallery was also a sure thing.

Tony Mandarich

Keyshawn Johnson

Non-QBs who are considered "sure things" at the very top of the draft bust out ALL THE GODDAMN TIME.

Why is Luke Joeckel any different? He shouldn't be treated any differently. He's NOT a sure thing.

So how about we just take the QB?
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