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Old 01-18-2017, 08:30 PM  
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Your 2017 MLB Hall of Fame Inductees.....

Jeff Bagwell, Tim Raines and Ivan Rodriguez join John Schuerholz and Bud Selig as the Class of 2017.

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The most exclusive team in sports has five new members.

Jeff Bagwell, Tim Raines and Ivan Rodriguez join John Schuerholz and Bud Selig as the Class of 2017.

Today's Game Era candidates, John Schuerholz and Allan H. “Bud” Selig were elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame on Sunday, Dec. 4, becoming members 313 and 314 of the Cooperstown shrine.

They will join Bagwell, Raines and Rodriguez as the Class of 2017, to be inducted July 30 in Cooperstown as part of the July 28-31 Hall of Fame Weekend. The Weekend festivities will also feature the presentation of the J.G. Taylor Spink Award to Claire Smith for writers and the presentation of the Ford C. Frick Award to Bill King for broadcasting excellence.

Since the inaugural Class of 1936, the National Baseball Hall of Fame has honored the game’s legendary players, managers, umpires and executives. Included in the 317 Hall of Famers are 220 former major league players, 30 executives, 35 Negro Leaguers, 22 managers and 10 umpires. The BBWAA has elected 124 candidates to the Hall while the veterans committees (in all forms) have chosen 167 deserving candidates (96 major leaguers, 30 executives, 22 managers, 10 umpires and nine Negro Leaguers). The defunct “Committee on Negro Baseball Leagues” selected nine men between 1971-77 and the Special Committee on Negro Leagues in 2006 elected 17 Negro Leaguers.

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Old 01-18-2017, 08:33 PM   #2
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I am not sure that I would be honored to go in in the same class with Selig.
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:16 PM   #3
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I am not sure that I would be honored to go in in the same class with Selig.
Well, considering you'll never be considered, let alone, never be an MLB Hall Of Famer, your post is moot.

Pretty much like all of your posts in the Lounge.

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Old 01-18-2017, 10:20 PM   #4
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F'ing finally. Bagwell should have went in years ago, maybe not first ballot, but definitely 2nd year.
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:30 PM   #5
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Rock Raines. Very well deserving candidate after years of not being in the conversation.
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:39 PM   #6
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Rock Raines. Very well deserving candidate after years of not being in the conversation.
yeah, Raines is also deserving, its not immediately obvious but when you really dive in and look at some of the more advanced sabermetric stats, Raines was a fantastic player for a very long time. He was saved when the old farts who didn't respect him were pushed out and stripped of their votes the last couple years so that younger voters who were more open minded could push him in.
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:49 PM   #7
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yeah, Raines is also deserving, its not immediately obvious but when you really dive in and look at some of the more advanced sabermetric stats, Raines was a fantastic player for a very long time. He was saved when the old farts who didn't respect him were pushed out and stripped of their votes the last couple years so that younger voters who were more open minded could push him in.
Agreed. Don't care if a player does coke. And arguably, while longevity in careers usually helps, it hurt rock. It brought his batting average down and people forgot how dominant he was on the base paths. Very aguably was a better base stealer than Ricky Henderson, crazy as that sounds, which would make him best of all time. Hit for average and got on base. Hit a decent number of Homers for a leadoff guy, but more importantly hit a shit load of triples.

The only ding on his resume was being average at fielding. But hard to get hung up on that. At least he played a defensive skilled position.
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:53 PM   #8
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:57 PM   #9
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Curt Schilling obviously should be in the hall of fame, but sadly he may have to wait for the veterans committee because he's not only dumber than a ****ing pile of rocks, he is also outspoken about advertising his stupidity, and that matters to HOF voters for some reason when they are supposed to be voting solely based on how well the man played the game of baseball.

Here he was TODAY, with his real, verified twitter account, raging at an obvious troll who fooled him into thinking he was tweeting at Ponson.



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Old 01-18-2017, 11:02 PM   #10
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Jeff Bagwell, Tim Raines and Ivan Rodriguez join John Schuerholz and Bud Selig as the Class of 2017.

Congrats!


http://baseballhall.org/hof/class-of-2017



The most exclusive team in sports has five new members.

Jeff Bagwell, Tim Raines and Ivan Rodriguez join John Schuerholz and Bud Selig as the Class of 2017.

Today's Game Era candidates, John Schuerholz and Allan H. “Bud” Selig were elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame on Sunday, Dec. 4, becoming members 313 and 314 of the Cooperstown shrine.

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Since the inaugural Class of 1936, the National Baseball Hall of Fame has honored the game’s legendary players, managers, umpires and executives. Included in the 317 Hall of Famers are 220 former major league players, 30 executives, 35 Negro Leaguers, 22 managers and 10 umpires. The BBWAA has elected 124 candidates to the Hall while the veterans committees (in all forms) have chosen 167 deserving candidates (96 major leaguers, 30 executives, 22 managers, 10 umpires and nine Negro Leaguers). The defunct “Committee on Negro Baseball Leagues” selected nine men between 1971-77 and the Special Committee on Negro Leagues in 2006 elected 17 Negro Leaguers.

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Old 01-18-2017, 11:41 PM   #13
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Curt Schilling obviously should be in the hall of fame, but sadly he may have to wait for the veterans committee because he's not only dumber than a ****ing pile of rocks, he is also outspoken about advertising his stupidity, and that matters to HOF voters for some reason when they are supposed to be voting solely based on how well the man played the game of baseball.

Here he was TODAY, with his real, verified twitter account, raging at an obvious troll who fooled him into thinking he was tweeting at Ponson.



I don't think it's an open and shut case. Looks great on sabermetrics and I get the WAR argument. I guess knowing Jeter will probably be a HOF, then you also give him the nod for being dominant in the postseason.

But in an era that had completely unhittable pitchers like Maddux and Pedro and Randy Johnson, Schilling was always just kind of a consistently steady pitcher. On paper, you still look at his 216 wins and 3.46 ERA and ask if it gets him the edge. I think it does. But I think if he put together the paper numbers he would have gotten in regardless of what comments he made.
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Old 01-19-2017, 12:28 AM   #14
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I don't think it's an open and shut case. Looks great on sabermetrics and I get the WAR argument. I guess knowing Jeter will probably be a HOF, then you also give him the nod for being dominant in the postseason.

But in an era that had completely unhittable pitchers like Maddux and Pedro and Randy Johnson, Schilling was always just kind of a consistently steady pitcher. On paper, you still look at his 216 wins and 3.46 ERA and ask if it gets him the edge. I think it does. But I think if he put together the paper numbers he would have gotten in regardless of what comments he made.
Schlling is not a HOF pitcher.

Electing a Consistently steady pitcher waters down the HOF.
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Curt Schilling obviously should be in the hall of fame, but sadly he may have to wait for the veterans committee because he's not only dumber than a ****ing pile of rocks, he is also outspoken about advertising his stupidity, and that matters to HOF voters for some reason when they are supposed to be voting solely based on how well the man played the game of baseball.

Here he was TODAY, with his real, verified twitter account, raging at an obvious troll who fooled him into thinking he was tweeting at Ponson.



Schilling is to MLB as Trump is to politics.
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