Chiefs BUT they said Alex Smith can't make reads!?? - Page 17

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01:52 AM

Tyreek Hill Rookie Season: 73% reception rate (61/83), 6 reception TDs, 31 First downs, 31% target rate for eligible routes (highest in NFL)
Jeremy Maclin 2015/16 Stats: 70% reception rate (87/124), 8 reception TDs, 49 First downs, lowest % of dropped passes in league
Travis Kelce Stats 2016: 73% reception rate (85/117), 4 reception TDs, 55 First downs, leads tight ends in total yards

Alex Smith splits with 4+ Receivers on field
2014: 63/95, 66% complet, 7.08 avg, 10 td’s, 1 INT…117.6 rating
2015: 73/110, 66% completion, 7.00 avg, 6TD/1 INT, 100.9 rating
2016: 146/193, 75% completion, 7 avg, 8TD/3INT, 101.8 rating

Spoiler!

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 05-18-2017, 10:34 AM

Yes, he was the best available choice since we passed on RW for Stephenson. With Smith, we opened up a 4 year window of being SB contenders (2 of which has passed us).

Only way the Chiefs are yearly contenders 2 years from now is if Peters is still with the team (my guess is they pick up the 2019 option and tag him in 2020 unless he puts up a huge fight), DJ's replacement is excellent, Berry plays to his value, and the DL actually comes together. That's asking a lot of things to pan out. But fortunately, a lot of things are going right thru the draft on the offensive side of things so I think Dorsey MIGHT piece this along nicely without any major road bumps. But that's a stretch, I'm especially not confident in our future at the safety position. Mahomes is a hopeful starter thru 2030, my guess is that after the Smith era this team will go thru a period of slump in which SD will take over the division if they find the right QB cause they are doing awesome things on both sides of the ball.

**Rausch** · 05-18-2017, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

It was reasonable to predict such a thing. Until the "rumors" that weren't rumors close to draft-time came out, most were assuming that such a move was unlikely.

Until 30 years of history is broken no one will believe 30 years of history will be broken...

Sandy Vagina · 05-18-2017, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Until 30 years of history is broken no one will believe 30 years of history will be broken...

well that's fine.. and also underscores my point. It was reasonable for everyone to not expect KC to trade up for a QB in any draft.. much less this one.

So deriding TU or anyone for predicting it not happen seems... odd.

**Rausch** · 05-18-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

well that's fine.. and also underscores my point. It was reasonable for everyone to not expect KC to trade up for a QB in any draft.. much less this one.

So deriding TU or anyone for predicting it not happen seems... odd.

It is.

KC has a 1-2 year push for a SB so trading up that far to take a QB, this year no less, wouldn't seem to be the logical route...

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 05-18-2017, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

It is.

KC has a 1-2 year push for a SB so trading up that far to take a QB, this year no less, wouldn't seem to be the logical route...

The way I see it, it's every 3 years that you find a talent with a high ceiling like RW meanwhile there are guys who have a pretty high ceiling but won't reach Rodgers/Brady level: Luck, Winston, Newton.

Management must have felt confident they found that once every third year guy. And they recognized he would be in the perfect position to learn from a 12 year veteran. With the extra draft picks, it makes the gamble seem less risky.

**SAUTO** · 05-18-2017, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

It was reasonable to predict such a thing. Until the "rumors" that weren't rumors close to draft-time came out, most were assuming that such a move was unlikely.

most of WHO?

RunKC · 05-18-2017, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Mahomes is a hopeful starter thru 2030, my guess is that after the Smith era this team will go thru a period of slump in which SD will take over the division if they find the right QB cause they are doing awesome things on both sides of the ball.

SD will be awesome with their next unknown QB but Mahomes will cause KC to slump.

Not a Chiefs fan

**Rausch** · 05-18-2017, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Management must have felt confident they found that once every third year guy. And they recognized he would be in the perfect position to learn from a 12 year veteran. With the extra draft picks, it makes the gamble seem less risky.

I like the move.

I don't like it - I LOVE THE MOVE.

This one draft pick changes the mindset of the Chiefs fanbase from norm to "Wow! Good or bad $#it is different now! We're swinging for the fences!"

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 05-18-2017, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I like the move.

I don't like it - I LOVE THE MOVE.

This one draft pick changes the mindset of the Chiefs fanbase from norm to "Wow! Good or bad $#it is different now! We're swinging for the fences!"

And all the Dorsey/Clark haters can quit their *****ing.

**Rausch** · 05-18-2017, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

And all the Dorsey/Clark haters can quit their *****ing.

And I'm not a 2PM fan.

I think, at best, he has a 25% chance of being a respectable NFL QB.

I don't care.

To me it's not about the player - it's about the shift in mindset that will eventually allow us to get the player we need...

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 05-18-2017, 11:36 AM

Yup. This franchise needed it. Even at the risk that morons will be booing smith for every mistake for the next 1-2 years.

**Rausch** · 05-18-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Yup. This franchise needed it. Even at the risk that morons will be booing smith for every mistake for the next 1-2 years.

Let the fans boo and let the rookie sit...

NWTF · 05-18-2017, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

And I'm not a 2PM fan.

I think, at best, he has a 25% chance of being a respectable NFL QB.

I don't care.

To me it's not about the player - it's about the shift in mindset that will eventually allow us to get the player we need...

I think he has a better chance than that to be respectable, probably 40-60, 50-50, but I know what your saying. I realize his chance to be great/elite is very, very slim as it is with every draft pick.

Mr. Plow · 05-18-2017, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Yup. This franchise needed it. Even at the risk that morons will be booing smith for every mistake for the next 1-2 years.

1 year.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 05-18-2017, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NWTF

I think he has a better chance than that to be respectable, probably 40-60, 50-50, but I know what your saying. I realize his chance to be great/elite is very, very slim as it is with every draft pick.

Which is why it is damn foolish for people on this board to be touting multiple SB's with PMII...never count your chickens before they hatch.

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05-18-2017, 10:34 AM	#241
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Yes, he was the best available choice since we passed on RW for Stephenson. With Smith, we opened up a 4 year window of being SB contenders (2 of which has passed us). Only way the Chiefs are yearly contenders 2 years from now is if Peters is still with the team (my guess is they pick up the 2019 option and tag him in 2020 unless he puts up a huge fight), DJ's replacement is excellent, Berry plays to his value, and the DL actually comes together. That's asking a lot of things to pan out. But fortunately, a lot of things are going right thru the draft on the offensive side of things so I think Dorsey MIGHT piece this along nicely without any major road bumps. But that's a stretch, I'm especially not confident in our future at the safety position. Mahomes is a hopeful starter thru 2030, my guess is that after the Smith era this team will go thru a period of slump in which SD will take over the division if they find the right QB cause they are doing awesome things on both sides of the ball. Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 05-18-2017 at 10:53 AM..
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05-18-2017, 11:36 AM	#251
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Yup. This franchise needed it. Even at the risk that morons will be booing smith for every mistake for the next 1-2 years.
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