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Old 06-22-2011, 12:02 PM  
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How do you feel about Derek Jeter?
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Underrated? Overrated? Rated just about right?
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:45 PM   #121
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He was certainly overrated due to the market he played in.
Agreed. Perfect storm of being in a big market and surrounded by all stars. Good player, but HIGHLY over rated.
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:46 PM   #122
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I hate the Yankees, but I have to respect Jeter. For everything he has done, for the man he is, and how he's carried himself on and off the field. He deserved that parting shot. He deserved every bit of it, and it's going to make for a helluva ending scene in a movie someday. That was a special, historic, moment, and I'm glad to have seen it. Farewell Jeter.
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:46 PM   #123
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He's not a good defensive SS.

Aside from that, he was an incredible baseball player, and obviously a first-ballot HOF'er. If he were playing a position that was more suited to his defensive ability, there would be no criticism at all. He could be the greatest player in the last generation.
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:48 PM   #124
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Derek Jeter is the best bachelor of all time. How he has managed to bang so much hot pussy and remain uncommitted is really something to admire. He is my hero in so many ways for that. I love Derek Jeter.
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:50 PM   #125
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I hate the Yankees, but I have to respect Jeter. For everything he has done, for the man he is, and how he's carried himself on and off the field. He deserved that parting shot. He deserved every bit of it, and it's going to make for a helluva ending scene in a movie someday. That was a special, historic, moment, and I'm glad to have seen it. Farewell Jeter.
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:50 PM   #126
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He was a good hitter but never really was the "Mr. Clutch" that everyone wants to anoint him.
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:26 PM   #127
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He was a good hitter but never really was the "Mr. Clutch" that everyone wants to anoint him.
His numbers (average, HR, RBI) in the postseason are almost identical to his regular season numbers which were also very good. That means that against the game's top pitching in the clutchest environment, he still managed the same numbers. If I'm not mistaken, his numbers in what would be considered clutch situations are also identical.

And unlike most batters, Jeter has enough at bats for that stat to actually mean something. He has pretty much a full season of at bats in the postseason.

He is exactly as clutch as he's annointed to be.
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:28 PM   #128
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I hated him during the Yankee dynasty, but he stuck around long enough for me to respect his game. He was a hell of a ballplayer and a guy you'd want on your team. Never a great defender, but he was competent, and he was a tremendous hitter for his position.

Baseball will definitely be different without him.
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A good, but completely over-hyped player simply due to playing in NY.

Basically Michael Young, but played on great teams instead of shit ones.

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Derek Jeter is the best bachelor of all time. How he has managed to bang so much hot pussy and remain uncommitted is really something to admire. He is my hero in so many ways for that. I love Derek Jeter.
He's probably a ****ing asshole.
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Also, in other news, Jeter's final season may have been pedestrian, but holy shit Paul Konerko went out with barely a peep.

.217/5/22

That's sad.
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Amazing player. Iconic. The thing I respect most about Jeter is his character, 20 years and you never heard of any scandal....just a class act. One of the greats. Awesome moment tonight, perfect way for him to go out.
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He's not a good defensive SS.

Aside from that, he was an incredible baseball player, and obviously a first-ballot HOF'er. If he were playing a position that was more suited to his defensive ability, there would be no criticism at all. He could be the greatest player in the last generation.
What position do you feel he was better suited for?
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A good, but completely over-hyped player simply due to playing in NY.

Basically Michael Young, but played on great teams instead of shit ones.
Even if Jeter has more at bats, Jeter is a 3,000 hit guy and has > 1,000 more hits than Young. He also has 4 times the amount of stolen bases. It's an interesting comparison, but again, Jeter is a hall of famer without the clutch aspect. He is a first ballot, no doubt hall of famer because of his play in the clutch. Again, his numbers (at least most of his career... don't know how this changed in his twilight years) was identical both in situations considered to be clutch and in the postseason. It's not flashy. But it basically says that regardless of situation, he's the same exact hall of fame hitter. Consistently. I mean, he hit over .300 in 10 of his 16 postseason appearances.

That's really remarkable. While guys like Papi have more flashy clutch moments, Jeter could be one of the most consistent clutch players of all time.
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