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Old 09-21-2018, 09:21 AM   #1
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There's still a lot of football left, but Houston needs to show that he can be at least a 10 sack guy. He needs to be a 13-17 sack guy to be worth his contract.

He's still strong at the point of attack.

He still commands double teams at times.

He's still a heady player that's stout in run defense.

But some of that power and explosion is gone, and he was never a speed guy to begin with. That contract he received was for sacking Qb's and affecting outcomes of games, not just being a stout run defender.

So sacking QB's is what he needs to do to be worth that money. So unless something changes soon with his production, the Chiefs will be forced to seriously consider eating some dead money.

They will have to decide whether to let Ford walk and keep paying Houston that big contract, or give Ford a 15M (ish) contract and letting Houston go.

Speaks and Kpass exist on the this roster because it's time for one, or both of those guys to go.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:30 AM   #2
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He's basically the whipping boy for the defense, the talk radio dudes are railing him for basically being a scrub so this will go on and on.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:32 AM   #3
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He's basically the whipping boy for the defense, the talk radio dudes are railing him for basically being a scrub so this will go on and on.
Oh is that what's happening on KC radio these days? I see.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:35 AM   #4
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Oh is that what's happening on KC radio these days? I see.
Yea phrases like

"I take the time to just watch him on plays and he doesn't do anything, he runs into the OT and just stands there, he's a bum"

The narrative that he blows is being pushed really hard. Like yesterday Bob Sutton said he played a fine game and when they went back to the guys the first line was "a lot of disinformation out there at 1 arrowhead drive apparently"
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:36 AM   #5
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Yea phrases like

"I take the time to just watch him on plays and he doesn't do anything, he runs into the OT and just stands there, he's a bum"

The narrative that he blows is being pushed really hard. Like yesterday Bob Sutton said he played a fine game and when they went back to the guys the first line was "a lot of disinformation out there at 1 arrowhead drive apparently"
Which host is this? Bob Fescoe or KK are my guesses.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:37 AM   #6
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Which host is this? Bob Fescoe or KK are my guesses.
Fescoes show was the first line...the disinformation from Bob Sutton was Carringtons show, 610 is very heavily pushing that Houston is a turd.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:37 AM   #7
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It's a long season. Wait and see. First two games have been extremely underwhelming. With Ford and Jones generating pressure Houston should find his way to the QB more often than he has. The few times I tried to focus on him, he didn't look like he had much of a dip and speed anymore.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:31 AM   #8
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I see guys all the time try to compare Houston's season to Von Miller's last season, even though that was a down year for Von.

Pssst.....guess who's on top of the sack leader board in 2018?

I'll give you a hint, he has a REALLY big contract but his name isn't Justin Houston.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:36 AM   #9
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I see guys all the time try to compare Houston's season to Von Miller's last season, even though that was a down year for Von.

Pssst.....guess who's on top of the sack leader board in 2018?

I'll give you a hint, he has a REALLY big contract but his name isn't Justin Houston.
Sucks that Houston doesn't get to face the shittiest line in football until December.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:32 AM   #10
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Chiefs have a lot of leverage. Houstons hitting the point in the contract where the Chiefs can basically tell Houston to accept the new terms, or be cut. I think Houston wants to stay and he's definitely looking for long term contract security, not making a quick buck.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:33 AM   #11
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:33 AM   #12
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I think Houston needs to have a 10 sack season to stay on the team and i think that's exactly what he'll have.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:34 AM   #13
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They can’t even begin to consider releasing Houston until Speaks or KPass show that they’re actually good players.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:39 AM   #14
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They can’t even begin to consider releasing Houston until Speaks or KPass show that they’re actually good players.
Sure they can. If Ford has a good season they can franchise him. Cutting Houston saves $14 million against the cap that can be used on a pass rusher or elsewhere. They should look at drafting one as well in the 1st or 2nd round. It's not like Houston is providing this huge performance on a weekly basis that can't be replaced. We're the worst defense in the league.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:41 AM   #15
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Sure they can. If Ford has a good season they can franchise him. Cutting Houston saves $14 million against the cap that can be used on a pass rusher or elsewhere. They should look at drafting one as well in the 1st or 2nd round. It's not like Houston is providing this huge performance on a weekly basis that can't be replaced. We're the worst defense in the league.
Dude..

Dee Ford is a 1 dimensional player that gets hurt all the time, why the **** would you want to tag him?
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