It's been a long time coming. Adiós.

[OnTheWarpath15]

It's time for me to bow out. It's been almost 10 years, and I'm tired.

Tired of the false narratives. Tired of people arguing the poster instead of the post. Tired of discussing football with people who favor excuses over evidence. Tired of wasting time talking about an organization that hasn't won a playoff game in the lifetime of a college senior. Tired of watching other great posters leaving entirely or posting less, weakening the Football IQ this place was known for 5-10 years ago.

I know posting a thread instead of just walking away will open the door for many to take their cheap shots - we all know who they are - and if you don't, just wait. They'll show themselves. Those of you that know me privately know this has been building for a long time.

With all that said, I'll say what I've always said: This team has talent, but will continually fall short as long as they keep thinking you can win in the postseason consistently with average QB play. You don't put enough pressure on the opposing defense, and it puts too much pressure on your defense - if they don't have a near-perfect day, you lose.

Peters and Conley were great picks and should make an impact in the years to come. Should be fun to watch. (What? According to some, I NEVER say anything positive - just another false narrative) While I doubt he'll get his shot, I'd like to see if Murray can be that franchise guy, or if he fell for reasons other than what people here assume - namely, his height and injury history. Hopefully they get Houston signed long-term, because if they don't they are in deep, deep shit. The defense tends to carry this team, and Houston is the most important cog in said defense.

I've made a lot of great friends here that are still friends to this day, and will continue to be. This place was awesome when it was more community based - when there would be gatherings, tailgates, etc. Now, it's littered with trolls that take advantage of the anonymity of the internet and would never show their face in public. That attitude has weakened this place considerably, IMHO.

For those of you I call a friend, we'll be in touch. If anyone that isn't already a friend privately or on Facebook/Twitter wants to continue to keep in touch, I'll keep my PM's open for a week or so.

Thanks, Kyle. It was fun for a while. Queue the "well, bye/sour grapes" posts in 3...2...1.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Yeah, I couldn't believe that someone would leave over what happened there. It was mild and polite compared to most football threads.

I guess there's always that cognative dissonance feeling that happens when you start to realize that the facts don't fit your opinions and it makes you uncomfortable.

I'm sure what you saw in the thread was mild and polite. BossChief has a tendency to send neg reps bitching and moaning when someone argues with him.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'm sure what you saw in the thread was mild and polite. BossChief has a tendency to send neg reps bitching and moaning when someone argues with him.

That's bull.

I'll post every single neg rep I've ever given if you'd like...including what I sent to Path.

I've sent 14 n the last 2 years and only 4 were to anyone but Blackbob.

[Hootie]

BossChief kind of cracks me up. He's that soft, nice kind of huge douche who makes outlandish predictions and is the ultimate homer while trying to maintain that he isn't a homer, all the while thinking he's some sort of "incredible" football mind who could run a front office better than 2/3 of the NFL. It's cute, in a giant douchey kind of way.

[tooge]

Wasn't Bosschief one of the posters that was adamant about the chiefs drafting Geno? That whole month or two before and right after the draft that year with Geno pretty much killed the football talk around here for me. It was a bunch of posters telling others that if you don't like Geno and the chiefs drafting him, then you are a moron. Pretty telling stuff really.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'm sure what you saw in the thread was mild and polite. BossChief has a tendency to send neg reps bitching and moaning when someone argues with him.

Neg repping is a pretty cowardly way to attack somebody. If someone doesn't have the balls to post his criticism in the public threads, he doesn't have any business hiding behind a neg rep.

But I wouldn't let a single poster run me off just because he neg repped me. I've received a few neg reps now and again myself.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That's bull.

I'll post every single neg rep I've ever given if you'd like...including what I sent to Path.

I've sent 14 n the last 2 years and only 4 were to anyone but Blackbob.

That's because you don't always send them through as neg reps. 75% of the "Get off my nuts" or "Why do you have a ****ing problem with me?" comments are pos-reps from you.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's disappointing, though like a few others, I do question the narrative a little bit here.

This board hasn't become a 'homer' board. Admittedly the mood is more optimistic than it has been in many MANY years (perhaps ever), but shouldn't that be the case?

For the sake of discussion, let's just briefly set aside the QB position (we'll get back to it, don't worry). Is it a stretch at all to say that this is the most talented team overall that we've seen in 25 years? I can't speak to the old timers, but that's my duration as a fan and to my eyes, this team has more ability at more places than any Chiefs team of my lifetime.

Sure, it has holes, but welcome to a cap league. Every team has holes. I'd like to have an established #2 WR. I'd like to have a steadier OL and Ted Backer. But hey - scarce resources; you take what you can get. And at least we have some high upside plays in those thinner positions.

As to the QB position - I think it was Boss that said it, but if you just cannot enjoy any Chiefs team because we have an average QB, then perhaps he's right - stepping away may be the way to go. Yeah, he's a boring option that does little to elevate his teams but we're 3 years down the road now. If you're still carping about Alex Smith when he's been a solid but unspectacular QB for us, you're not going to be happy so I guess you're better served divesting, at least until the Chiefs make the play at QB that you'd like to see made (and c'mon, with Andy Reid here, I do expect they'll make that play when they opportunity meets motivation).

Chiefsplanet's core constituency isn't any different than it's ever been, IMO. You still have about 25% of the board that's endlessly optimistic and another 25% of the board that's endlessly pessimistic. The 50% in the middle are what control the character of the board. Right now that 50% is pretty happy with where the team is trending. Even people like Dane and me that have generally sided very much on the negative side of the ledger are very excited about the direction of the team. That's not being a homer - that's simply appreciating the efforts of a competent leadership team.

There are still smart posters here (especially now that I'm back for a spell), but CP is actually less of an echo chamber than it was 4 years ago. The membership hasn't changed as much as the outlooks of the members has, and with good cause, IMO.

Always the voice of reason.

IMO, these threads are dumb. I thought much, much higher of you OTWP. Threads like these are for shitty posters.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That's bull.

I'll post every single neg rep I've ever given if you'd like...including what I sent to Path.

I've sent 14 n the last 2 years and only 4 were to anyone but Blackbob.

Don't take my previous post personally. I was referring to neg reps in general. Sounds like you're not one of those guys.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

That's because you don't always send them through as neg reps. 75% of the "Get off my nuts" or "Why do you have a ****ing problem with me?" comments are pos-reps from you.

I feel like Boss was left out a lot in life and he tries to make up for it here

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by tooge

Wasn't Bosschief one of the posters that was adamant about the chiefs drafting Geno? That whole month or two before and right after the draft that year with Geno pretty much killed the football talk around here for me. It was a bunch of posters telling others that if you don't like Geno and the chiefs drafting him, then you are a moron. Pretty telling stuff really.

I wanted us to trade for Alex Smith (but didn't want to spend more than a third to get him) AND draft a QB high in the draft. My preference was Geno Smith. I wanted Alex to be a placeholder for a young QBOTF. I even called for sitting Geno 2 years if we drafted him.

I've always been in the "draft the best QB you can and build around him" guy...and always will be. But, hey...we got Eric Fisher. I'm actually interested to see how Geno does with a creative OC in Chan Gailey and some weapons at WR to work with. The third year is when most QBs start to "get it" and if we had drafted him and developed him, who knows. I was probably wrong on that one, but hey. Can't win em all.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

BossChief kind of cracks me up. He's that soft, nice kind of huge douche who makes outlandish predictions and is the ultimate homer while trying to maintain that he isn't a homer, all the while thinking he's some sort of "incredible" football mind who could run a front office better than 2/3 of the NFL. It's cute, in a giant douchey kind of way.

Plus, he's still sitting on the Dez Bryant video.

[RollChiefsRoll]

Geno Smith sucks and always will.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Plus, he's still sitting on the Dez Bryant video.

BossGlazer is such a jerk ! Not sharing those videos with the public !

[bevischief]

Most of the long time posters don't post anymore. More lurking than posting.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

That's because you don't always send them through as neg reps. 75% of the "Get off my nuts" or "Why do you have a ****ing problem with me?" comments are pos-reps from you.

That's bull, too. I just looked at all of my rep given going back to 12/13 and haven't found a single rep like that. Not 1. Maybe there is one from before that, but I don't think so. Also, I've never sent a rep message that I didn't already say what I had to say in the actual thread. Keep trying.

If you'd like, I can post a screen cap of my reps given.