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Old 01-13-2014, 03:28 PM   #1
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No way. You aren't getting to the bottom unless you shut off the water.
or dive like that crazy old man who dug the other tunnel did...
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:35 PM   #2
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or dive like that crazy old man who dug the other tunnel did...
Man... to HELL with that diving business, that old man was NUTS.

It seems like if they just did another big dye release and had divers stationed at the various places offshore, they could find the inlets and plug them up.
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:40 PM   #3
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They had mentioned that other hunters used RED dye down in the hole and it came out into the coves, seems to me, that if you did that again and had some divers in the water, they could easily find where the water is coming in.
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Man... to HELL with that diving business, that old man was NUTS.

It seems like if they just did another big dye release and had divers stationed at the various places offshore, they could find the inlets and plug them up.
Yep...that's what I said earlier.
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:41 PM   #4
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Man... to HELL with that diving business, that old man was NUTS.

It seems like if they just did another big dye release and had divers stationed at the various places offshore, they could find the inlets and plug them up.
the old man was obsessed, . even admitted it himself.

and admitting it is the first step.
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:43 PM   #5
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Man... to HELL with that diving business, that old man was NUTS.

It seems like if they just did another big dye release and had divers stationed at the various places offshore, they could find the inlets and plug them up.
How do you find the inlets for the water though? This isn't a bucket you can hold up to find the hole.
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:49 PM   #6
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How do you find the inlets for the water though? This isn't a bucket you can hold up to find the hole.
I think what you're asking is how do you pinpoint the openings, if you have divers offshore they should be able to get a pretty good fix on where its coming in based on where the dye is strongest.

I think thats what you're asking...
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:55 PM   #7
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I think what you're asking is how do you pinpoint the openings, if you have divers offshore they should be able to get a pretty good fix on where its coming in based on where the dye is strongest.

I think thats what you're asking...
You wouldn't be able to tell. You would have to use a large amount of dye to get enough saturation to be visible when diluted amongst the hundreds of thousands of gallons of water. The diver's would be blinded, and the whole cove flooded with dye. And there would be a time delay in when the dye would travel so it's not like you can say exactly where the dye was at when it becomes visible in the shaft or across the island.
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You wouldn't be able to tell. You would have to use a large amount of dye to get enough saturation to be visible when diluted amongst the hundreds of thousands of gallons of water. The diver's would be blinded, and the whole cove flooded with dye. And there would be a time delay in when the dye would travel so it's not like you can say exactly where the dye was at when it becomes visible in the shaft or across the island.
This.
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Old 01-13-2014, 04:21 PM   #9
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Man... to HELL with that diving business, that old man was NUTS.

It seems like if they just did another big dye release and had divers stationed at the various places offshore, they could find the inlets and plug them up.
I think it'd be very hard to do. To see the whole shore of water turn red, yes, but to see a particular spot? I'd think you'd need to be below water to see it, and as murky as the water is, I don't think you'd be able to catch it before you were immersed in it. Not without assistance anyway.

Maybe a infrared camera could detect something quickly, or backlight with some sort of solvent, or hot water and a thermal camera.

Even then, it'd be hard to stop water from getting in. I guess you could pump hydraulic cement in. But with five box drains, just cut off the main shaft. Which is likely just a trench they dug and filled with gravel covered with coconut fiber and buried.
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Old 01-13-2014, 04:24 PM   #10
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Man... to HELL with that diving business, that old man was NUTS.

It seems like if they just did another big dye release and had divers stationed at the various places offshore, they could find the inlets and plug them up.
I'm not sure why this is so nuts.

Is it more nuts than free diving? Or scuba diving in deep ocean water? What is so nuts about it?

What he did, with that gear that was likely primitive THEN, sure, a bit nuts, but with modern means?
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