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Old 12-06-2012, 07:19 AM   #1
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Dear God, no. Most seasons have at least one player, usually an older woman, who is just so bad a player - whether through desire to be nice, or naivete, or whatever - that she makes people like me want to chew through the TV screen. The worst that I remember offhand was named Lillian, and she made Lisa here look like Machiavelli.

I'm sure there were others which I am blocking out.
Lisa is a complete hypocrite. She says she votes one way in order to be loyal and not go back on her word (see Penner). Yet the next day she's talking about voting out Malcolm. Then she takes the all-time cop out if things don't go her way that it's "God's will" and either way it's a "win-win" situation.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:40 AM   #2
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Lisa is a complete hypocrite. She says she votes one way in order to be loyal and not go back on her word (see Penner). Yet the next day she's talking about voting out Malcolm. Then she takes the all-time cop out if things don't go her way that it's "God's will" and either way it's a "win-win" situation.
Malcolm hit the nail on the head when he said he may of made a mistake letting Lisa's brother stay the night because he would have a calming effect on her and could get her to play intelligently.

If Malcolm was ever a real target because he is a strong player/popular, etc., why didn't the target move to Denise who seems to be in the exact same situation as Malcolm, plus she has/had the disadvantage of never having an idol?
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:36 PM   #3
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The other reason would be the quite reasonable fear that Carter would win every single remaining challenge.
Indeed. That and him maybe getting the votes as the one nobody disliked or was jealous of.

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Malcolm hit the nail on the head when he said he may of made a mistake letting Lisa's brother stay the night because he would have a calming effect on her and could get her to play intelligently.

If Malcolm was ever a real target because he is a strong player/popular, etc., why didn't the target move to Denise who seems to be in the exact same situation as Malcolm, plus she has/had the disadvantage of never having an idol?
I thought it would be the automatic play.

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Lisa is a complete hypocrite. She says she votes one way in order to be loyal and not go back on her word (see Penner). Yet the next day she's talking about voting out Malcolm.
I don't know. She has been pretty open about not knowing what she is doing. Going back and forth would show that. She wanted to go with Penner and he told her he didn't want to make an alliance. I don't really see that as going against her word. Voting out Malcolm came after her brother told her to play the game inside the rules of the game, not the rules of society(in her eyes).

If Denise wants to win she needs to get Malcolm out or something. She will be fighting the "follower" card in the final 3 if she doesn't. I would think they will go after Denise if she doesn't win immunity this week.

I also agree even if Abby gets her 2 alliance votes she could never handle herself in front of the jury. She really hasn't gotten roasted aside from the one time. The rest has been her being dramatic.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:54 AM   #4
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I don't know. She has been pretty open about not knowing what she is doing. Going back and forth would show that. She wanted to go with Penner and he told her he didn't want to make an alliance. I don't really see that as going against her word. Voting out Malcolm came after her brother told her to play the game inside the rules of the game, not the rules of society(in her eyes).
Here reason for NOT voting with Penner was that she wanted to keep her word to Malcolm & Denise. Then the very next week she wanted to vote out Malcolm. Brother or not, that's hypocritical. You're either the playing the game or you aren't.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:22 PM   #5
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Here reason for NOT voting with Penner was that she wanted to keep her word to Malcolm & Denise. Then the very next week she wanted to vote out Malcolm. Brother or not, that's hypocritical. You're either the playing the game or you aren't.
She has been all over the map, no doubt about it. I still think she has been honest enough to their faces that she would have a chance of surviving that in the jury questioning. I'm sure she would be grilled about it but I don't think it would cost her going up against Abi. However, she might lose to the other person because of it.
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