Hypothetical: Chip Kelly LOVES Geno Smith

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Hypothetical Scenario in which Sorter= GM for KC

Just another day in the office, getting ready for the draft. Sends ***** an email saying "**** you, pillowbiter."

All of a sudden, a wild phone rings. *ring, ring*

"Hello, this is Sorter. Who's this?"

"Hi Sorter, this is Chip Kelly. I'd like to talk to you about the availability of your first round pick"

"...Could you hang on just one minute for me, Chip? Thanks."

...a minute passes...

*phone picked back up* "Hey Chip, I have someone who'd like to speak to you." (to another person) "Yeah, sure go ahead and tell him"

"Hello Chip, this is Geno Smith. Go **** yourself."

"Any questions Chip?"

[Nightfyre]

Lmao sorter.

[Dayze]

Chip Kelly loves Geno, tell him to get bent.

[Crush]

The first three picks will be QBs. Absolutely not.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

jokel doesnt even make the top ten. Boom!
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[O.city]

This makes it a risk we don't get our qb. That's why we wanted the first overall pick. Don't mess around. The qb is more important, worry about te rest later

[saphojunkie]

at the idiocy in this thread.

Yeah, the draft is really going to go QB, QB, QB with the first three picks.

****ing people baffle me.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

at the idiocy in this thread.

Yeah, the draft is really going to go QB, QB, QB with the first three picks.

****ing people baffle me.

It's not that it WILL.

It's that it COULD.

Why risk it?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's not that it WILL.

It's that it COULD.

Why risk it?

It's a tough question, but the answer is ultimately a simple one:

Because it's really really hard to win in this league.

Think about it - a lot of us are saying that the 'risk' of taking a QB is overblown and you can't be governed by fear. We're all willing to concede that a team in the Chiefs situation can't afford to be risk-averse. Now when we have been making that argument, it's been in response to the idea that Smith is too risky a pick, but the logic holds true no matter what the question is.

So, if you like Wilson a lot and think there's a solid chance he'd be available at 4 - sure, you could take him at 1, but that's very very risk averse thinking. At that point I think you need take a big deep breath, grab your balls and pull the trigger.

The upside is immense. We're talking about still getting your QB PLUS getting the WR you need (or CB) in the 2nd PLUS potentially getting another free impact player in next year's draft.

That's a ton of return and it's a ton of return where you may still get the guy you wanted all along.

If it's okay to accept the risk of failure in Geno to get the massive upside reward, why isn't it also okay to accept the risk of losing out on Wilson to get the massive upside reward of getting Wilson, Xavier Rhodes and another premium player next season?

I'd make the deal. Actually, that's probably not true - I wouldn't make the deal because I say there is a big gap between Smith and Wilson, but the hypothetical says that I don't see a massive distinction between the two. With that prerequisite in place, I make the deal.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

at the idiocy in this thread.

Yeah, the draft is really going to go QB, QB, QB with the first three picks.

****ing people baffle me.

Chiefs, Jaguars, Raiders, and Eagles will all be looking for new QBs. Those are the first four picks in the draft. Then you have the Cardinals that might trade up. Both the Browns and Chargers have new regimes and may look for new QBs. Both the Jets and the Buccaneers may also look for a new QB. That's within the top 15. It's idiotic to take the risk and miss out on either Geno, Wilson, or Barkley. Extra draft picks mean doodly shit if you do not have a franchise QB.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Crush

Chiefs, Jaguars, Raiders, and Eagles will all be looking for new QBs. Those are the first four picks in the draft. Then you have the Cardinals that might trade up. Both the Browns and Chargers have new regimes and may look for new QBs. Both the Jets and the Buccaneers may also look for a new QB. That's within the top 15. It's idiotic to take the risk and miss out on either Geno, Wilson, or Barkley. Extra draft picks mean doodly shit if you do not have a franchise QB.

I think that is part of the problem: If I recall correctly, Clark has explicitly stated that there isn't a franchise QB in this draft.

Will there be better QBs in next year's draft? I don't know.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I think that is part of the problem: If I recall correctly, Clark has explicitly stated that there isn't a franchise QB in this draft.

Will there be better QBs in next year's draft? I don't know.

Next year's crop looks weaker to me. Especially when you consider that this year's crop had a much better outlook last year.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I think that is part of the problem: If I recall correctly, Clark has explicitly stated that there isn't a franchise QB in this draft.

Will there be better QBs in next year's draft? I don't know.

He didn't say that. He said that he won't get a call from Reid/Dorsey saying they were wrong and there's a sure-thing, can't miss prospect in this draft. And he's right.

That doesn't mean you don't take a QB, and I think this whole trade scenario works only if you still take a QB at #4.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

He didn't say that. He said that he won't get a call from Reid/Dorsey saying they were wrong and there's a sure-thing, can't miss prospect in this draft. And he's right.

That doesn't mean you don't take a QB, and I think this whole trade scenario works only if you still take a QB at #4.

The hypothetical is predicated on taking a QB at 4.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I think that is part of the problem: If I recall correctly, Clark has explicitly stated that there isn't a franchise QB in this draft.

You recall incorrectly.

He never explicitly stated anything remotely like that.

He stated that Dorsey and Reid hadn't told him that there was a QB worth the #1 pick in the draft. When asked if he thought they could tell him that later he said he didn't THINK that would happen.

That was in a radio interview MINUTES after Dorsey was hired, so the comment isn't worth a hill of beans.