Hopkins holding out for new deal

[O.city]

Adam Shefter


Unhappy with contract, Texans WR DeAndre Hopkins has left camp, holdout underway, HOU has declined to negotiate, via @taniaganguli and me.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

You are a strange cat O

More than likely.

I just don't like the thought that the players are always supposed to honor their deal and when they don't it's a shitty deal, yet when a team decides to cut a guy or move on, it's in the name of competitiveness.

[The Franchise]

Finally gets a better QB.....holds out.

Makes sense.

[Buehler445]

There is nothing other than the BLAR BLAR HES UNDERPAID schtick that would refute anything SNR is bringing.

SNR doing work.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by O.city

More than likely.

I just don't like the thought that the players are always supposed to honor their deal and when they don't it's a shitty deal, yet when a team decides to cut a guy or move on, it's in the name of competitiveness.

He signed a contract and knew what the guarantees were. You can't let them game the system like this. Bad precedent.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by O.city

They just did a new deal for watt 2 years before his was due.

Precisely. If the Texans were smart they would be working on a long term with Hopkins now but they can't because they put all their cap $$ in an unproven player forgoing what is proven. Hopkins has already shown he can perform with just crap

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

If this asshole thinks he is to WRs what JJ Watt was to DL, he's even more of a delusional ****tard than I thought.

Also, not sure what you're talking about. JJ Watt was drafted in 2011, and it wasn't until 2014 that he signed an EXTENSION.

This asshole says, "I'm unhappy with my contract, so let's talk!" and he's only done two seasons of great play, but none of it is exceptional.

Originally Posted by O.city

He's been their best offensive player for 2 years with shit and ass at QB. If anyone on that team other than Watt has a cry for more money, it's him.

I'm just saying it's not hard to see where he's coming from wanting an extension. "They did Watt early, I've been great, why not me"? kinda thing.

Originally Posted by O.city

More than likely.

I just don't like the thought that the players are always supposed to honor their deal and when they don't it's a shitty deal, yet when a team decides to cut a guy or move on, it's in the name of competitiveness.

Hey, if there is anybody about character it is me but as the GMs and Owners always tell their players "this is a business decision" well back atcha fellas is my reply especially when a player has proven "greatness" since the very start in his rookie year to SNR's point that he apparently doesn't get. Hey when you have a potential Hall of Famer on your team that has proven consistent greatness since his inception with manure for an offense to boot, you get that man signed long term as soon as possible. My guess is we wouldn't be having this conversation IF the Texans had not signed Brock who has not proved anything other than he couldn't finish the job in Denver in getting them to the SB. They probably would be renegotiating and rightly so. Like you guys, I hate players that gripe for more $$ when most of the time they don't deserve it, but this kid deserves it and it is even better because it is a win-win for both parties IMHO.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by O.city

He's been their best offensive player for 2 years with shit and ass at QB. If anyone on that team other than Watt has a cry for more money, it's him.

I'm just saying it's not hard to see where he's coming from wanting an extension. "They did Watt early, I've been great, why not me"? kinda thing.

If teams start kow-towing to guys on rookie contracts conducting training camp holdouts because they want extensions, this shit's going to get even more out of hand than it already is.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

If teams start kow-towing to guys on rookie contracts conducting training camp holdouts because they want extensions, this shit's going to get even more out of hand than it already is.

You would be a failure as a GM if you can't recognize superior Pro Bowl and potential hall of fame talent and choose to pay a higher price later on which screws with your cap even more which is what will happen to the Texans because they chose the unproven over their own proven with crap all around him. Now it just makes for bad blood and I bet he will want out very soon.

Recognize,sign and save is my mantra.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

If teams start kow-towing to guys on rookie contracts conducting training camp holdouts because they want extensions, this shit's going to get even more out of hand than it already is.

Probably.

But if a guys playing that well, extend him.

The fisher signing won't help the texans any.

[ThaVirus]

Texans have a new QB and high expectations this season. Hopkins is far and away their best offensive player even with the addition of Lamar Miller.

It'll be interesting to see if they appease him.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Finally gets a better QB.....holds out.

Makes sense.

There is nothing proven about Osweiller whatsoever but there is hard evidence for Hopkins especially with a manure offense all around him.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

You would be a failure as a GM if you can't recognize superior Pro Bowl and potential hall of fame talent and choose to pay a higher price later on which screws with your cap even more which is what will happen to the Texans because they chose the unproven with their own proven with crap all around him. Now it just makes for bad blood and I bet he will want out very soon.

Recognize,sign and save is my mantra.

When you're locked in to a rookie deal, you have no room to make demands.

Sometimes the sides talk nicely to each other and your extension comes sooner rather than later, like in the case of Eric Fisher. Other times, your side behaves like a bunch of stupid bitches. That's exactly what Hopkins is doing.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

He signed a contract and knew what the guarantees were. You can't let them game the system like this. Bad precedent.

What the **** . He's on his slotted rookie deal. And if he underperformed his contract, his team would have cut him. You like that double standard?
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[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by -King-

What the **** . He's on his slotted rookie deal. And if he underperformed his contract, his team would have cut him. You like that double standard?
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Yeah, not sure why people are so OK with the clubs having all of the power. These organizations cut these guys without blinking an eye if they think they're underperforming to their contracts.

Why can't the player look out for himself in the same manner?

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

When you're locked in to a rookie deal, you have no room to make demands.

Sometimes the sides talk nicely to each other and your extension comes sooner rather than later, like in the case of Eric Fisher. Other times, your side behaves like a bunch of stupid bitches. That's exactly what Hopkins is doing.

Everything is negotiable my friend especially when you are still lighting it up with crap around you, you should no this rule by now and especially when you have consistent Pro Bowl talent from his inception. Professional or Diva behavior it is business and the biggest character concern I have when signing big talent are 2 things: 1. Is he good for the locker room? 2. Was the kid a serious off the field issue prior to the NFL, that has led to present day off the field issues which most likely leads to future off the field issues? Hopkins is good for the locker room and his character has been above reproach so far. There is Diva behavior that is fodder and harmless which is to be expected but then there are serious character issues that rarely change and he has kept his nose clean and his character on the field shows he truly loves the game. So pay the man !!!