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Old 12-09-2012, 03:52 PM   #1
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It all comes down to luck now. We're going to have a new GM, new coach, and will draft a QB with the first pick in the draft. Chances are there will be a true franchise QB taken in the draft -- but it's not obvious to me who that will be. Just as Pioli's failed tenure was defined by Matt Cassel, the new GM will be defined by that QB selection. He needs to get it right, or he'll fail, too.
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:57 PM   #2
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:17 PM   #3
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It all comes down to luck now. We're going to have a new GM, new coach, and will draft a QB with the first pick in the draft. Chances are there will be a true franchise QB taken in the draft -- but it's not obvious to me who that will be. Just as Pioli's failed tenure was defined by Matt Cassel, the new GM will be defined by that QB selection. He needs to get it right, or he'll fail, too.
No way I draft a QB with the # 1 overall pick in this draft. I do everything I can to trade out of the # 1 pick if possible. Just the Chiefs luck that when they FINALLY SUCK bad enough to pick # 1 overall, there is no QB worthy of the selection. Hiring the RIGHT GM and HC is more important IMO.
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:21 PM   #4
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No way I draft a QB with the # 1 overall pick in this draft. I do everything I can to trade out of the # 1 pick if possible. Just the Chiefs luck that when they FINALLY SUCK bad enough to pick # 1 overall, there is no QB worthy of the selection.
**** no. You draft the QB who you think is best #1 QB and pay the guy that slot $.

This isnt 2 years ago where the #1 pick gets $50MM guaranteed. If you think you have a guy you want drat and pay him. Who cares if you are wrong?

We gave Cassel a $60MM contract and that's not the issue, the issue is we could have cut bait earlier and moved on earlier and didn't.
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:55 PM   #5
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No way I draft a QB with the # 1 overall pick in this draft. I do everything I can to trade out of the # 1 pick if possible. Just the Chiefs luck that when they FINALLY SUCK bad enough to pick # 1 overall, there is no QB worthy of the selection. Hiring the RIGHT GM and HC is more important IMO.
it's dumbass thinking like that, that gets us no where. Why are you so scared to draft a QB? Geno is most certainly worth the #1 pick. WVU isn't all that great, but he is and whoever gets him will be glad they did.

That's the one thing that's been holding us back, but you would rather draft a ****ing lineman. JFC
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:02 PM   #6
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No way I draft a QB with the # 1 overall pick in this draft. I do everything I can to trade out of the # 1 pick if possible. Just the Chiefs luck that when they FINALLY SUCK bad enough to pick # 1 overall, there is no QB worthy of the selection. Hiring the RIGHT GM and HC is more important IMO.
Embarrassingly stupid.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:45 PM   #7
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No way I draft a QB with the # 1 overall pick in this draft. I do everything I can to trade out of the # 1 pick if possible. Just the Chiefs luck that when they FINALLY SUCK bad enough to pick # 1 overall, there is no QB worthy of the selection. Hiring the RIGHT GM and HC is more important IMO.
Thank God for small miracles. Like the one that you are not the GM of the Chiefs.

Get ****ing real man. Oh my god there isn't a Luck this year or there isn't an RG3 this year. There generally isn't one of those types in the draft every year. Those 2 types only come around once every decade or 2. Smith/Wilson are just as good as Stafford/Bradford or most other years at the QB position.
The only acceptable reason for not coming out of this draft without one of those 2 is draft position and the teams above us won't trade out.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:48 PM   #8
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Thank God for small miracles. Like the one that you are not the GM of the Chiefs.

Get ****ing real man. Oh my god there isn't a Luck this year or there isn't an RG3 this year. There generally isn't one of those types in the draft every year. Those 2 types only come around once every decade or 2. Smith/Wilson are just as good as Stafford/Bradford or most other years at the QB position.
The only acceptable reason for not coming out of this draft without one of those 2 is draft position and the teams above us won't trade out.
There wasn't a RGIII in the draft this time last year. People still considered him a late R1 or early R2 pick.

I'll agree that there's not a Luck-like prospect in this draft, but the depth in this draft at the QB position is as solid as it's been in years. Several of these guys have a chance to be successful.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:57 PM   #9
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There wasn't a RGIII in the draft this time last year. People still considered him a late R1 or early R2 pick.

I'll agree that there's not a Luck-like prospect in this draft, but the depth in this draft at the QB position is as solid as it's been in years. Several of these guys have a chance to be successful.
I have been seeing this statement a lot lately. I think it is incorrect. RG3 was a finalists for the Heisman last year.
As I recall there was a lot of talk about him. No not like there was after the combine and interviews. But there was a lot of chatter because of the season that he had.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:02 PM   #10
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There wasn't a RGIII in the draft this time last year. People still considered him a late R1 or early R2 pick.

I'll agree that there's not a Luck-like prospect in this draft, but the depth in this draft at the QB position is as solid as it's been in years. Several of these guys have a chance to be successful.
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I have been seeing this statement a lot lately. I think it is incorrect. RG3 was a finalists for the Heisman last year.
As I recall there was a lot of talk about him. No not like there was after the combine and interviews. But there was a lot of chatter because of the season that he had.
I concur with the latter. Talk was even whether he'd go over Luck. Consensus was he wouldn't, but that was just because Luck was phenomenal. RGIII was widely respected and his stint in the NFL was highly anticipated. Not just athletic and accurate but mature and intelligent as well.

Don't know the EXACT timeline, but well over a just year sounds right.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:38 PM   #11
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:49 PM   #12
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I have been seeing this statement a lot lately. I think it is incorrect. RG3 was a finalists for the Heisman last year.
As I recall there was a lot of talk about him. No not like there was after the combine and interviews. But there was a lot of chatter because of the season that he had.
Until about mid-February (maybe early March) the consensus on RG3 was the "can he take snaps from under center in the NfL" standard spread QB conversation...
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:03 PM   #13
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There wasn't a RGIII in the draft this time last year. People still considered him a late R1 or early R2 pick.

I'll agree that there's not a Luck-like prospect in this draft, but the depth in this draft at the QB position is as solid as it's been in years. Several of these guys have a chance to be successful.
I'm going to repost something I posted a couple of weeks ago to follow up on your post here.

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I am really amazed at the stupidity here.

In 2011, the first 3 QBs taken were Cam Newton, Jake Locker and Blaine Gabbert.

In 2010, the first 3 QBs taken were Sam Bradford, Tim TeBow and Jimmy Clausen.

In 2009, the first 3 QBs taken were Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez and Josh Freeman.

In 2008, the first 3 QBs taken were Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco and Brian Brohm.

And you think this is a down year for QBs.

Last year's draft was an anomaly.

This is a superior top 3 than any of those listed above.
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