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[chiefzilla1501]

What are your sweeping changes? Go!

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The problem is when you have a man with questionable ethics running this whole operation. Not to mention an owner without a spine or a clue how to deal with the nflpa. His handling of the lockout told you everything you need to know about his negotiation prowess. His botched pr effort after the ray rice incident tells you how clueless the guy is at crisis management. His cronyism doling out punishments and the cover up in the ray rice incident tells you everything you need to know about his values.

Goodell is a shiny object chaser and a spinner. Concussions are up? Let's just flag players for hitting too hard. Goodell reacted to the concussion issue instead of proactively trying to fix it. He is afraid to mandate mouth guard usage and basic safety equipment because he's afraid that it's an admission to the players Union that they ignored it in the past.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Paul Tagliabue didn't have nearly the same track record of consistent dumbassery. It's called leadership.


We're not talking about corruption. We're talking about the poorly implemented, terrible rules that have the fingerprints of a guy who loves chasing after shiny objects with no planning.


It was Goodell who walked in with the clear agenda to police personal conduct from day 1. I am sure most things in the Goodell era were sold in by telling owners it was a new way to make money. I am sure owners don't give a shit about personal conduct and TD celebrations to nearly the extent Goodell did. I'm sure this talk about expanding draft days, Thursday night football, etc... were cooked in Goodell's brain then sold in to the owners. The sloppy execution, from the inconsistent enforcement of personal conduct all the way to the **** up that led to the draft getting pushed back... that's Goodell



So yes, Goodell is a marketing guy and all his ideas seem to have the same marketing spin. I am sure an NFL commissioner who sets the vision to return the integrity of the game while still making money for owners would also be successful without running the game into the ground the way Goodell is.

Repped.

Ladies and gentlemen:

Chiefzilla!

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Maybe there were some big things they did that I'm not remembering, but how did stupid celebrations hurt anything?

That 'Riverdance' was ****ing epic, and should be enshrined in the hall.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by Jim Lahey

Negate every move Goodell has made during his tenure. Then ban that ****er for life.

And then bang his hot wife. Ex-Fox News anchor Jane Skinner.

[Contrarian]

Nothing said about moving the damn kickoff back to where it was in all of this? Move the goddamn kickoff back to where it was!!!! I want to see returns.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

What are you going to argue with? What exactly did Goodell do to promote player safety? He did the same shit he does with every solution. Fine people who contribute to the problem, inconsistently enforce those rules, and then fall into the fetal position when retired players attack you asking for better retirement benefits.

I would hope that a leader that gets paid as much as Goodell does can find a more creative solution than trying to penalize people every time he wants to fix a problem. That seems to be his only solution for anything. I would hope that a leader in that position of power wouldn't look like such a lightweight when the big dogs go after him. If he's truly a shill for the owners, as you claim, he's in a position to attack the NFLPA. He seems to lose every battle with them because he has no idea what the **** he is doing.

[BigRichard]

I still say if you want to cut down on the injuries limit the size of players. If your over say 300 pounds you can't play.

[Psyko Tek]

Originally Posted by Start Croyle

Instead of overtime, do a soccer style shootout with field goals instead of penalty kicks to decide games which are tied at the end of regulation.

welcome n00b,
you need to

[Rain Man]

I think the biggest problems are actually off the field.

1. Contracts must be flat-fee, per year constant value contracts, to keep teams like the Broncos from cheating.

2. Ditch that stupid Together We Make Football contest because it's an amateur display of public relations blunders that makes the league look terrible.

3. Loosen up the defensive backfield rules. Keep the defenseless hit stuff if necessary, but allow enough contact to restore a run/pass balance. I tend to think that runs produce less severe injuries anyway.

4. No more selling naming rights to stadiums.

5. The Super Bowl rotates between NFL cities, and once every 32 years it's held in a random U.S. city that doesn't have an NFL team.

I have a bigger agenda, but I have to remember what it is.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The problem is when you have a man with questionable ethics running this whole operation. Not to mention an owner without a spine or a clue how to deal with the nflpa. His handling of the lockout told you everything you need to know about his negotiation prowess. His botched pr effort after the ray rice incident tells you how clueless the guy is at crisis management. His cronyism doling out punishments and the cover up in the ray rice incident tells you everything you need to know about his values.

Goodell is a shiny object chaser and a spinner. Concussions are up? Let's just flag players for hitting too hard. Goodell reacted to the concussion issue instead of proactively trying to fix it. He is afraid to mandate mouth guard usage and basic safety equipment because he's afraid that it's an admission to the players Union that they ignored it in the past.

Goodell has been credited with the success of a cash cow that was going to grow no matter who was commissioner. The guy has botched almost everything he has put his hands on. The only thing he's done is make money but at the expense of the integrity of the game.

He works for a bunch of billionaires. And you don't become a billionaire by worrying about integrity.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What are you going to argue with? What exactly did Goodell do to promote player safety? He did the same shit he does with every solution. Fine people who contribute to the problem, inconsistently enforce those rules, and then fall into the fetal position when retired players attack you asking for better retirement benefits.

I would hope that a leader that gets paid as much as Goodell does can find a more creative solution than trying to penalize people every time he wants to fix a problem. That seems to be his only solution for anything. I would hope that a leader in that position of power wouldn't look like such a lightweight when the big dogs go after him. If he's truly a shill for the owners, as you claim, he's in a position to attack the NFLPA. He seems to lose every battle with them because he has no idea what the **** he is doing.

Some of the statements in your last two posts show you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Just ridiculous comments. As for these "creative" solutions you want, they apparently can't involve any rule changes or penalizing behavior that they want to discourage. So...you're basically upset because he hasn't invented a new type of helmet. OK

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Some of the statements in your last two posts show you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Just ridiculous comments. As for these "creative" solutions you want, they apparently can't involve any rule changes or penalizing behavior that they want to discourage. So...you're basically upset because he hasn't invented a new type of helmet. OK

I don't know the exact answer. That is not my area of expertise. I am talking about the fact that what Goodell has done doesn't work.

If you're going to enforce rules, enforce them consistently. It's almost like they pick punishments out of a hat. The enforcement is a huge joke. There are plenty of manufacturers out there who are testing safer equipment options. Many would argue that getting rid of hard facemasks is one way. Goodell has yet to mandate wearing mouthguards which is a simple solution toward reducing concussions. Hell, if you're worried about liability, create a concussion waiver system. If players are getting faster, then find ways to slow them down. And if we got back to teaching players how to tackle with their bodies instead of their shoulders, defenders would become better players. There are solutions out there. But that's not how Goodell works. Goodell likes to throw a bunch of shit at the wall and see what sticks instead of having a clear-cut plan.

So what did Goodell do? He selectively enforces personal fouls with zero consistency whatsoever sometimes choosing to scapegoat instead of consistently enforcing the rules. No major equipment changes of note. And his method of punishment hasn't disincentivized behavior, just as his laughable personal conduct policy has made the problem even worse. His policy of putting concussion doctors on the sidelines added yet another element of subjectivity, and the Chiefs were a huge victim of that, as arguably those doctors' complete judgment calls may have cost them a playoff win.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Baconeater

He works for a bunch of billionaires. And you don't become a billionaire by worrying about integrity.

Nobody would fault David Stern or Paul Tagliabue for being a complete mouthpiece for ownership. Both those guys have to give in to the owners from time to time. But they also take firm stances when leadership is required, and at least their initiatives resemble a plan. They're not always right. They both made some dumb mistakes. But Goodell... can anyone name a single thing he has done right except to make more money for a sport that was wildly popular from the get-go?

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't know the exact answer. That is not my area of expertise. I am talking about the fact that what Goodell has done doesn't work.

If you're going to enforce rules, enforce them consistently. It's almost like they pick punishments out of a hat. The enforcement is a huge joke. There are plenty of manufacturers out there who are testing safer equipment options. Many would argue that getting rid of hard facemasks is one way. Goodell has yet to mandate wearing mouthguards which is a simple solution toward reducing concussions. Hell, if you're worried about liability, create a concussion waiver system. If players are getting faster, then find ways to slow them down. And if we got back to teaching players how to tackle with their bodies instead of their shoulders, defenders would become better players. There are solutions out there. But that's not how Goodell works. Goodell likes to throw a bunch of shit at the wall and see what sticks instead of having a clear-cut plan.

OMG...You hate rule changes and tinkering with the game...but suggest doing something to make players SLOWER.

Sure, "teaching" them how to tackle better. Because players always execute the way they are taught. If the league as a whole wants to curb a behavior...they penalize it. But you don't like that.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Ban PEDs HARD.

Legalize ganja.

Offer free don't ask don't tell UBER service 24/7 to all current NFL employees.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

OMG...You hate rule changes and tinkering with the game...but suggest doing something to make players SLOWER.

When did I say I hate rule changes. I hate rule changes that are horribly enforced and especially changes that do NOTHING to improve the integrity of the game. Keeping players safe is an integrity move. Creating offense friendly rules is clearly a marketing move. Enforcing TD celebrations and player conduct has nothing to do with the game itself. And by the way, I did not say that heavier equipment is a solution. I am pointing out that there are a million ideas out there to make the game safer and all Goodell has done is try to throw a bunch of fines in scattershot fashion.

Sure, "teaching" them how to tackle better. Because players always execute the way they are taught. If the league as a whole wants to curb a behavior...they penalize it. But you don't like that.

You are such a deep throater of Goodell it's scary.

In player conduct and reducing injury, Goodell's only solution has been penalizing players. Every time we need a solution, that's all Goodell's got. And none of it has worked. It's not just that the idea is stupid, it's the execution.