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View Poll Results: Would the following situation make you NOT freak out about not drafting Geno Smith?
Yes, I'd be very cool with this. 18 42.86%
NO NO NO!!!! I want us to draft Geno with ALL OUR PICKS! 7 16.67%
Meh, I don't like it but I wouldn't freak out. 6 14.29%
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:00 PM   #1
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To be clear, NO ONE is claiming Alex Smith is a franchise QB. But to write him off as garbage is just stupid. Those with this OPINION may end up being right... but acting as if they KNOW at this point is a Charger's fan level of dumb.

I can't believe I am here defending Alex Smith... BUT the amount of pure knee jerk stupid that is running rampant today has forced me to try to be the voice of reason here. To not like Alex Smith is fine, normal even... but to go batshit crazy because we MAY have traded a FOURTH round pick for him is ridiculous.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:02 PM   #2
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To be clear, NO ONE is claiming Alex Smith is a franchise QB. But to write him off as garbage is just stupid. Those with this OPINION may end up being right... but acting as if they KNOW at this point is a Charger's fan level of dumb.

I can't believe I am here defending Alex Smith... BUT the amount of pure knee jerk stupid that is running rampant today has forced me to try to be the voice of reason here. To not like Alex Smith is fine, normal even... but to go batshit crazy because we MAY have traded a FOURTH round pick for him is ridiculous.
I don't KNOW he's going to fail.

But I don't have any reason to believe he's going to succeed either.

His history, and the Chiefs history, suggest it will be another failure in a long, long line of failures.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:05 PM   #3
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I don't KNOW he's going to fail.

But I don't have any reason to believe he's going to succeed either.

His history, and the Chiefs history, suggest it will be another failure in a long, long line of failures.
No one is asking you to BELIEVE in him or expect wins... just not to expect him to be worthless. ANd that is exactly what your over the top emotional responses about him have indicated. I get it, I am fed up as well... but let's give our new staff and whoever the next QB is... a chance to fail at least a LITTLE before we burn them at the stake.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:08 PM   #4
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No one is asking you to BELIEVE in him or expect wins... just not to expect him to be worthless. ANd that is exactly what your over the top emotional responses about him have indicated. I get it, I am fed up as well... but let's give our new staff and whoever the next QB is... a chance to fail at least a LITTLE before we burn them at the stake.
You're correct with that. No argument at all. But how suprised are you going to be when we take Joeckel only to watch him be the next Mandarich, and see Geno go to the Raiders only to watch him ride us like a rented Corvette the next ten years?

It's what we've come to expect as Chiefs fans.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:13 PM   #5
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You're correct with that. No argument at all. But how suprised are you going to be when we take Joeckel only to watch him be the next Mandarich, and see Geno go to the Raiders only to watch him ride us like a rented Corvette the next ten years?

It's what we've come to expect as Chiefs fans.
We better not draft that overrated Aggie! We need to just wait and draft Taylor Lewan in 2014! DUH!
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:09 PM   #6
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No one is asking you to BELIEVE in him or expect wins... just not to expect him to be worthless. ANd that is exactly what your over the top emotional responses about him have indicated. I get it, I am fed up as well... but let's give our new staff and whoever the next QB is... a chance to fail at least a LITTLE before we burn them at the stake.
Well, I totally expect him to be worthless. To expect him to be otherwise is hopelessly naive.

EDIT: And no, I don't have any more good will to give them any more chances. I've suffer through watching this team for too long, waited for them to get the #1 pick for too long. I am ****ing fed up with it. They either do what all the other successful teams do or I am getting off the train. I am not rooting for a team that has no interest in winning.
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:18 PM   #7
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No one is asking you to BELIEVE in him or expect wins... just not to expect him to be worthless. ANd that is exactly what your over the top emotional responses about him have indicated. I get it, I am fed up as well... but let's give our new staff and whoever the next QB is... a chance to fail at least a LITTLE before we burn them at the stake.
I think my emotional reaction to Alex Smith comes from my greatest fear, the average to decent QB. The QB that makes you year after year wonder and maybe believe he can do it the next year with a slightly better team. I don't fear shitty QBs as much, because it's clear cut that you get rid of them(save for a Pioli GM where ego is involved). So when I see Alex, I don't worry about him being shit. I worry about him selling himself just enough each year.

I get that Reid and Dorsey aren't blind, and that would be my hope if this scenario plays out, but this fan base and media group are full of idiots. Decent play from Smith may buy him time. That's why I prefer taking a chance elsewhere. I just fear the decent QB much more so than a risky boom or bust one.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:05 PM   #8
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I don't KNOW he's going to fail.

But I don't have any reason to believe he's going to succeed either.

His history, and the Chiefs history, suggest it will be another failure in a long, long line of failures.
This.

Someone someday needs to teach the definition of insanity to Clark.
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To be clear, NO ONE is claiming Alex Smith is a franchise QB. But to write him off as garbage is just stupid. Those with this OPINION may end up being right... but acting as if they KNOW at this point is a Charger's fan level of dumb.

I can't believe I am here defending Alex Smith... BUT the amount of pure knee jerk stupid that is running rampant today has forced me to try to be the voice of reason here. To not like Alex Smith is fine, normal even... but to go batshit crazy because we MAY have traded a FOURTH round pick for him is ridiculous.
Look at it like this -

Matt Cassel was pretty decent with Charlie Weis around. Alex Smith was pretty damned good with Harbaugh around.

What's going to happen next?
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:08 PM   #10
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Look at it like this -

Matt Cassel was pretty decent with Charlie Weis around. Alex Smith was pretty damned good with Harbaugh around.

What's going to happen next?
Cassel was BARELY decent with Weis and a creampuff schedule. Smith was far better with Harbaugh. If you think Reid is equivalent to Harbaugh as an offensive coach and QB developer.. then you would expect Smith to continue to progress (if healthy). Again, I don't want to get sucked into being a defender of Alex Smith... I just would like us to return to some semblance of sanity for a bit.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:13 PM   #11
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Cassel was BARELY decent with Weis and a creampuff schedule. Smith was far better with Harbaugh. If you think Reid is equivalent to Harbaugh as an offensive coach and QB developer.. then you would expect Smith to continue to progress (if healthy). Again, I don't want to get sucked into being a defender of Alex Smith... I just would like us to return to some semblance of sanity for a bit.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:20 PM   #12
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Einstein's Definition

Albert Einstein once said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".
Using an incorrectly attributed aphorism is not the best way to make a point. Einstein never said anything of the sort. (And though I think Planck was the greater genius I wouldn't slander Einstein so much as to put such trite nonsense in his mouth.)
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