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Old 01-24-2015, 08:17 PM  
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LNBS: Can we trade Chase Daniel?

I honestly think we will trade him this offseason.

This draft is weak at QB IMO and lots of teams have needs at quarterback, while Chase has shown the ability to lead a team to wins (I still view the 2013 finale as a win because the refs screwed up)

Mariotta has red flags for being a system guy that hasn't had to really throw into tight windows (his receivers were always wide open) and hasn't had to run a pro style set. Others have said he is a one read guy who looks to run too fast (not sure I agree with that)

Winston showed major red flags after his last game and while he is a gamer and has a lot of experience in a pro style offense, there are concerns that his immaturity will lead to a guy with early success but might not have the drive it takes to develop all of his skills and he might really embarrass your team if you draft him and constantly have to clean up after him.

Hundley? I once saw him as a guy that might move this year into the top spot, but he didn't really impress.

It's also a weak free agent class of QBs (even with Cutler possibly hitting free agency)

Andy has a history of trading quarterbacks for picks and it would be amazing if he can get us a third for Daniel while saving us nearly 4 million in cap space while he's at it.

Honestly, the more I look into this QB class, I think it's not only possible but probable that they move Chase...I think a third is possible...or maybe a conditional pick dependent on playing time and production.

Texans
Bills
Rams
Bears
Jets
Jags
Titans
Bucs

That's a lot of QB needy teams without a lot of options out there.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:14 PM   #136
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Defense.
You mean the Defense that gave up 45 to Indy in the playoffs?

Or the Chiefs Defense that gave up 26 points to the LOWLY Titans Offense?
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:16 PM   #137
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Look dumbass - it's obvious you are an attention whore - I'll break it down for you.

Alex Smith is a good QB
Our OL is garbage
our WR corps aren't even starters on a good team

How is it if Alex Smith is so bad we made the playoffs last year and almost again this year despite for our lousy WR/OL Corps?
We had the #2 pass defense in football.

We had the #2 scoring defense in football.

We have Jamaal Charles.

We have Travis Kelce.

Nobody is saying that our receivers or OL were good...but at the same time going a whole season only completing 3 passes that traveled 20 yards in the air or more while not completing a single td pass to a wide receiver is simply inexcusable.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:16 PM   #138
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How about the Defense that gave up 24 to Derek Carr and the ChOakland Faiders?
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:18 PM   #139
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We had the #2 pass defense in football.

We had the #2 scoring defense in football.

We have Jamaal Charles.

We have Travis Kelce.

Nobody is saying that our receivers or OL were good...but at the same time going a whole season only completing 3 passes that traveled 20 yards in the air or more while not completing a single td pass to a wide receiver is simply inexcusable.
Paper Champs - yay - doesn't mean anything without on field results.

I completely agree it's inexcusable - I think the fault lies in the WR corps not the QB.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:19 PM   #140
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He's talking about the #2 in points allowed defense in the league.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:19 PM   #141
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I will say I wish they had trotted Wilson out there more often. Seemed like he was making plays while everyone else was standing around
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:19 PM   #142
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Is this guy trying to make the defense look bad while trying to make a point that Alex Smith is the reason for the teams wins?
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:20 PM   #143
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The defense that allowed Alex Smith to not throw a TD pass in 5 of the 9 games in their 9-0 start.

The defense that collapsed at the end of the season last year when the Chiefs went 2-5.

The defense that was 9th in points last year and 2nd in points this year. Yes, I mean that defense, dumbass.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:23 PM   #144
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And now we've reached the point where the defense is expected to play 16 games without surrendering more than 200 total points.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:25 PM   #145
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The defense that allowed Alex Smith to not throw a TD pass in 5 of the 9 games in their 9-0 start.

The defense that collapsed at the end of the season last year when the Chiefs went 2-5.

The defense that was 9th in points last year and 2nd in points this year. Yes, I mean that defense, dumbass.
Against the Cowboys, Eagles, Bills and Texans all of whom have above average Defenses themselves.

The Faiders game is the lone outlier
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:29 PM   #146
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Paper Champs - yay - doesn't mean anything without on field results.

I completely agree it's inexcusable - I think the fault lies in the WR corps not the QB.
You're talkin about on the field results? And defending Alex Smiff?
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:47 PM   #147
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Is this guy trying to make the defense look bad while trying to make a point that Alex Smith is the reason for the teams wins?
No, I'm saying thatthe reason for our offensive woes are WR based not QB based. I'm also sarcastically pointing out that anyone can make an arguement about any part of the team being at fault for a loss. It take critical thinking to not let dumbass thought processes cloud your better judgement. If Alex Smith was really that bad then why would they waste anymore time with him? They had 3 other QBs to turn to but never did save the last game. How many starting WRs did we go through? Bowe/Avery/Avant/Wilson/Hammond/Hemmingway/DAT. Only Wilson and DAT ever did anything worth mentioning.

But I'll make a wager with anyone willing to bet that opening day next year we have at least 3 new "Starters" on the WR Corps. By starters I mean the active roster folks. Depth 1 thru 5.
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I froze my ass off at the Broncos game and watched as not one WR got open the whole game....it's like you don't even watch the games
Wow. I'll post up the screen shots of the WR's open all over the place with clean pockets in that game when I get home.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:52 PM   #149
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LOLOLOLOLOL.

Just need a #1 Defense, two #1 RB's, three #1 WRs, #1 TE of course; and we're going places baby!
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LOLOLOLOLOL.

Just need a #1 Defense, two #1 RB's, three #1 WRs, #1 TE of course; and we're going places baby!
I guess I don't disagree with him, necessarily.

If Trent Dilfer can win a SB with that firepower, I guess Alex Smith can, too.
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