Xbox 720 vs PlayStation 4: Whats in Store?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Guru

THIS is exactly what I am referring to. Guess I was being too complicated about it. The last thing I want is these companies going to complete cloud storage. I average 75gb per month already. factor in games I would easily exceed the 150 I am allowed. There is absolutely no reason to get rid of physical media for games. Now if they want to put the games on encrypted flash drives I'm fine with that but it it goes 100% cloud based they won't get my money. Now, when the ISPs stop bleeding people over bandwidth I might reconsider that stance but for now, NO WAY.

I have news for you - EVERYTHING is moving towards the cloud. When Google first unveiled their operating system concept, it had NO local storage. Microsoft is gradually moving applications from the desktop OS to the cloud.

We're moving further and further into a realm where we, the consumer, do not and will not own content. We'll consume it on-demand, with permission from the actual owner/provider.

[007]

Originally Posted by Pants

75Gb/mo? Jesus. No wonder they want to institute bandwidth caps.

Hate to break it to you but 75gb is peanuts compared to what most people use. Thats just netflix and watching tv shows I missed while they were airing.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I have news for you - EVERYTHING is moving towards the cloud. When Google first unveiled their operating system concept, it had NO local storage. Microsoft is gradually moving applications from the desktop OS to the cloud.

We're moving further and further into a realm where we, the consumer, do not and will not own content. We'll consume it on-demand, with permission from the actual owner/provider.

I know, and the ISPs are cashing in on it. I have a hard time justifying $45 a month for internet as it is. ISPs are moving to $70-100 per month models now thanks to this ****ing cloud based crap.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Guru

I know, and the ISPs are cashing in on it. I have a hard time justifying $45 a month for internet as it is. ISPs are moving to $70-100 per month models now thanks to this ****ing cloud based crap.

I don't know of any ISPs doing business around here, other than HughesNet, that have bandwidth caps.

[007]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don't know of any ISPs doing business around here, other than HughesNet, that have bandwidth caps.

Here in Topeka ATT is 150gb for DSL and 200gb for uverse internet. Cox is 50gb for basic internet and 200gb for mid teir internet. The Cox has an unlimited package for $100 per month.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Guru

Here in Topeka ATT is 150gb for DSL and 200gb for uverse internet. Cox is 50gb for basic internet and 200gb for mid teir internet. The Cox has an unlimited package for $100 per month.

They must have some terrible network in the area. Those bandwidth caps are in place to alleviate over-subscription issues.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Guru

Hate to break it to you but 75gb is peanuts compared to what most people use. Thats just netflix and watching tv shows I missed while they were airing.

Define most people? Most people with Netflix? How much Netflix do you watch? I can maybe see a pirating fiend piping 75Gb/mo.

[007]

Originally Posted by Pants

Define most people? Most people with Netflix? How much Netflix do you watch? I can maybe see a pirating fiend piping 75Gb/mo.

4 kids and I'm a techie. No I don't ****ing pirate. also, Onlive takes up some of that bandwidth but I severely limit that.

the last couple months I've been able to get it down to 50gb per month because I found out how to turn down the quality settings on netflix to the crappiest setting.

BTW, a true pirating fiend would make my use look like absolutely NOTHING.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Pants

Define most people? Most people with Netflix? How much Netflix do you watch? I can maybe see a pirating fiend piping 75Gb/mo.

I use that easily but I work from home.

[007]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I use that easily but I work from home.

you must be a pirate then. Don't you love closed minded people.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I have news for you - EVERYTHING is moving towards the cloud. When Google first unveiled their operating system concept, it had NO local storage. Microsoft is gradually moving applications from the desktop OS to the cloud.

We're moving further and further into a realm where we, the consumer, do not and will not own content. We'll consume it on-demand, with permission from the actual owner/provider.

Forgive me, I know very little about the technology, but isn't "the cloud" just a ****ing server? I like having my own games on my own disc, and my game data and game saves on my own console hard drive. That way if something ****s up on their end, I'm not shit outta luck. As far as streaming games, it makes sense for the gaming industry due to piracy, but I hate having to rely on an internet connection to play games. Call me old fashioned, but I like to put the ****in game in the ****in system and hit start.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by lcarus

Forgive me, I know very little about the technology, but isn't "the cloud" just a ****ing server? I like having my own games on my own disc, and my game data and game saves on my own console hard drive. That way if something ****s up on their end, I'm not shit outta luck. As far as streaming games, it makes sense for the gaming industry due to piracy, but I hate having to rely on an internet connection to play games. Call me old fashioned, but I like to put the ****in game in the ****in system and hit start.

Technically, the "cloud" is a NETWORK of servers.

If the hard drive or storage stick fails in your console, your game data is gone. FOREVER.

The appeal of the cloud is that your game data and game saves are stored in a place where they could NEVER be lost. They are stored on one or more servers that are backed up constantly and continuously.

And while I certainly understand the sentiment of not wanting to rely on an Internet connection, we crossed that bridge a decade ago. Games are frequently shipped now and require a Day 1 patch, which means without an Internet connection they are somehow unplayable.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Technically, the "cloud" is a NETWORK of servers.

If the hard drive or storage stick fails in your console, your game data is gone. FOREVER.

The appeal of the cloud is that your game data and game saves are stored in a place where they could NEVER be lost. They are stored on one or more servers that are backed up constantly and continuously.

And while I certainly understand the sentiment of not wanting to rely on an Internet connection, we crossed that bridge a decade ago. Games are frequently shipped now and require a Day 1 patch, which means without an Internet connection they are somehow unplayable.

That's true about the patches. And while I think the cloud is great for storage, I'd like to have my game date and saves stored on my console hard drive and then backed up on the cloud servers. But you're right, it's nearly impossible to buy a brand new game and just play it without having to install a patch immediately. It's pretty lame in my opinion but what can we do about it. After all, this is a world we're living in where the few ruin everything for the majority. Meaning the pirates. Sad.